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If I look at a certain species observation in The Netherlands on the Observation.org website itself, they provide the ‘exact’ coordinates (e.g. GPS: 51.xxxx 5.xxxx). However, Observation.org data for The Netherlands that is displayed on the GBIF website uses a data generalization method. This doesn’t apply to, for example, Germany or France. Because of this, an exported file from GBIF Observation.org data only contains a general coordinate (e.g. 52.1 ; 5.2). In QGIS this generalized point does contain all the different species within that coordinate range, but unlike other countries they don’t get displayed as individual points. Why is that? How can I resolve this? #5497

Open gbif-portal opened 1 month ago

gbif-portal commented 1 month ago

If I look at a certain species observation in The Netherlands on the Observation.org website itself, they provide the ‘exact’ coordinates (e.g. GPS: 51.xxxx 5.xxxx). However, Observation.org data for The Netherlands that is displayed on the GBIF website uses a data generalization method. This doesn’t apply to, for example, Germany or France. Because of this, an exported file from GBIF Observation.org data only contains a general coordinate (e.g. 52.1 ; 5.2). In QGIS this generalized point does contain all the different species within that coordinate range, but unlike other countries they don’t get displayed as individual points. Why is that? How can I resolve this?


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CecSve commented 1 month ago

Publisher contacted via helpdesk

larsgw commented 1 month ago

I am not entirely sure exactly what goes on behind the scenes, but I believe this has to do with certain contractual obligations of the publisher. It is very frustrating, especially as the site touts the "collecting, enhancing and sharing biodiversity data".

MattBlissett commented 1 month ago

The dataset metadata says:

From the Netherlands on a 5 x 5 km scale, data from other countries are exact.

https://www.gbif.org/dataset/8a863029-f435-446a-821e-275f4f641165

A small improvement would be to say how to get the original data (if that's possible).

larsgw commented 1 month ago

A small improvement would be to say how to get the original data (if that's possible).

From what I understood, only if you (1) scrape the website, (2) pay NDFF, or (3) ask nicely by email.