Closed gocentral closed 9 years ago
ref for cleavage prior to polyadenylation: http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/books/NBK21563/#_A2878_
PMID:10523662 = cleavage of 3' end prior to polyadenylation PMID:10619842 = cleavage of 3' end prior to polyadenylation PMID:10899131 = cleavage of 3' end prior to polyadenylation PMID:11344258 = cleavage of 3' end prior to polyadenylation PMID:11713271 = cleavage of 3' end prior to polyadenylation PMID:12504017 = cleavage of 3' end prior to polyadenylation PMID:18971324 = cleavage of 3' end prior to polyadenylation + involvement in snoRNA processing PMID:7590244 = cleavage of 3' end prior to polyadenylation PMID:9342333 = cleavage of 3' end prior to polyadenylation PMID:21102410 = cleavage of 3' end prior to polyadenylation PMID:12704082 = cleavage of 3' end prior to polyadenylation
PMID:21317875 = ribonuclease activity in regulated splicing (splices Xbp1 mRNA generating an active Xbp1s transcriptional activator) - fits under processing
PMID:9712888 = Earlier cleavage event - during transcription (involved in read through past block to elongation) PMID:12692127 = Earlier cleavage event - during transcription ((involved in read through past block to elongation)
PMID:14729943 = novel method of mRNA degradation: RNase MRP specifically cleaves the CLB2 mRNA in its 5'-UTR to allow rapid 5' to 3' degradation by the Xrn1 nuclease PMID:15009896 = inhibition of translation in bacteria via mRNA cleavage PMID:17158880 = 3' end cleavage -> degradation (controlling mRNA in cell cycle PMID:18007599 = siRNA targeted mRNA cleavage PMID:18454937 = siRNA pathway
PMID:20424607 = Refers to miRNA process, possibly 3'-5'-exoribonuclease activity involved in mature miRNA 3'-end processing
Original comment by: dosumis
Hi David,
Would the simplest solution be to broaden the definition of mRNA processing to include silencing events? Or alternatively, would you expect "mRNA cleavage involved in gene silencing by miRNA" to be a child of "mRNA catabolic process”? So, could you have…
mRNA catabolic process — is_a mRNA cleavage involved in gene silencing by miRNA
mRNA cleavage — has_part mRNA cleavage involved in gene silencing by miRNA
??
I don’t think you can say miRNA guided cleavage at internal site leading to silencing (in your potential solution) because miRNAs also direct deadenylation (does this count as cleavage?) of the polyA tail of mRNA, leading to degradation – which is represented by "deadenylation-dependent decapping of nuclear-transcribed mRNA” and "nuclear-transcribed mRNA poly(A) tail shortening” - but these terms also confuse me!
I did mention this in a previous email when we were discussing gene expression (see also the attached QuickGO comparison of these terms)…
Quote>> GO:0000289 nuclear-transcribed mRNA poly(A) tail shortening (mRNA deadenylation), and consequently its regulation terms, is under gene expression but GO:0000290 deadenylation-dependent decapping of nuclear-transcribed mRNA (which happens if the poly(A) tail has reached a minimum length) is under mRNA catabolic process.
I don¹t know enough about poly(A) tail shortening to know if the ontology here is correct, but positive regulation of nuclear-transcribed mRNA poly(A) tail shortening is a child of positive regulation of gene expression - but if you get too much shortening, this is when the mRNA is decapped and degraded = mRNA catabolism. So I guess for gene silencing by miRNA, we would want to use positive regulation of deadenylation-dependent decapping of nuclear-transcribed mRNA because if we use positive regulation of nuclear-transcribed mRNA poly(A) tail shortening, this would go up to positive regulation of gene expression, which is not what is happening.
Maybe we should have new terms "positive regulation of nuclear-transcribed mRNA poly(A) tail shortening involved in gene silencing by miRNA" and "positive regulation of deadenylation-dependent decapping of nuclear-transcribed mRNA involved in gene silencing by miRNA", that would both come under gene silencing. <<
I think we need to look at all these terms together rather than just fixing single problems. It doesn’t help that new mechanisms for miRNA action are being discovered all the time!
Original comment by: rachhuntley
Would the simplest solution be to broaden the definition of mRNA processing to include silencing events?
But everything else currently under gene expression is a process involved in generating a mature gene product. Cleavage involved in silencing is the opposite.
Or alternatively, would you expect "mRNA cleavage involved in gene silencing by miRNA" to be a child of "mRNA catabolic process”?
It can (and probably should) be that as well.
So, could you have…
mRNA catabolic process — is_a mRNA cleavage involved in gene silencing by miRNA
mRNA cleavage — has_part mRNA cleavage involved in gene silencing by miRNA
??
I don’t think you can say miRNA guided cleavage at internal site leading to silencing (in your potential solution) because miRNAs also direct deadenylation (does this count as cleavage?) of the polyA tail of mRNA, leading to degradation – which is represented by "deadenylation-dependent decapping of nuclear-transcribed mRNA” and "nuclear-transcribed mRNA poly(A) tail shortening” - but these terms also confuse me!
I've been assuming cleavage corresponds to endonuclease activity in this case, rather than exonuclease. This fits with the dictionary definition of the verb.
Deadenylation leading to degredation seems to be a distinct mechanism from silencing by cleavage. See http://cshperspectives.cshlp.org/content/4/12/a012328.full.pdf.
Cleavage at internal site (common in plants): "In instances when the complementarity between the target and the miRNA is extensive and the AGO protein is catalytically active, the target is cleaved by AGO within the base-paired region (between nucleotides 10 and 11, opposite the miRNA strand) (Fig. 1) (Bartel 2009; Jı´nek and Doudna 2009; Voinnet 2009). This mechanism appears to be most prominent in plants where miRNAs recognize fully or nearly complementary binding sites, which are gen- erally located in the mRNA open reading frames (ORFs) (Voinnet 2009)"
"In animals, miRNAs recognize partially complementary binding sites, which are generally located in the mRNA 30 untranslated region (UTR) (Bartel 2009)." This results in blocking of translation and, in some cases also in deadenylation leading to degredation.
From : http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3890232/ "Deadenylation is followed by one of two alternate degradation pathways: 3′→5′ degradation by the cytoplasmic exosome, or removal of the 5′ cap (decapping) by Dcp1p/Dcp2p and 5′→3′ degradation by the Xrn1p exonuclease."
Don't think either of these processes are cleavage.
I think we need to look at all these terms together rather than just fixing single problems.
Agreed. Reviewing related function terms now.
Original comment by: dosumis
Given that 'mRNA cleavage' has been used for a range of cases, some of which are not processing (see above), we should redefine mRNA cleavage as a more general term, add new specific child terms and submit a re-annotation ticket to get annotations moved to the appropriate specific term.
mRNA cleavage . is_a mRNA cleavage involved in mRNA processing . is_a mRNA cleavage involved in gene silencing (or perhaps, mRNA cleavage involved in negative regulation of gene expression?) . . is_a mRNA cleavage involved in gene silencing my miRNA
gene silencing by miRNA . part_of 'deadenylation involved in gene silencing by miRNA' (EquivalentTo: 'nuclear-transcribed mRNA poly(A) tail shortening' that part_of some 'gene silencing by miRNA') . part_of mRNA cleavage involved in gene silencing (or perhaps, mRNA cleavage involved in negative regulation of gene expression?) . . part_of mRNA cleavage involved in gene silencing my miRNA
Original comment by: dosumis
Cross-referencing to
https://sourceforge.net/p/geneontology/ontology-requests/11638/
for the broader issue of definition of 'gene silencing'.
Original comment by: tberardini
I think the proposed solution looks OK. You would then have the major mechanisms of gene silencing grouped, i.e. cleavage, deadenylation and negative regulation of translation - GO:0035278 negative regulation of translation involved in gene silencing by miRNA is already a child of gene silencing by miRNA.
Rachael.
Original comment by: rachhuntley
Hi David,
Is the above proposed solution agreed now? I would like to update my guidelines with the new terms.
Thanks, Rachael.
Original comment by: rachhuntley
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Original comment by: dosumis
Fixed pretty much as outlined above see: [[img src=gene_silencing_by_miRNA.png]]
Also added comments to 'regulation of gene expression' and 'negative regulation of gene expression' to make it clear that reg of mRNA levels covered:
Original comment by: dosumis
Original comment by: dosumis
Annotation issues moved to new annotation ticket: https://sourceforge.net/p/geneontology/annotation-issues/1317/
Closing as fixed.
Original comment by: dosumis
RNA processing: "Any process involved in the conversion of one or more primary RNA transcripts into one or more mature RNA molecules." . % mRNA processing: "Any process involved in the conversion of a primary mRNA transcript into one or more mature mRNA(s) prior to translation into polypeptide."
. . % mRNA cleavage: "Any process in which a pre-mRNA or mRNA molecule is cleaved at specific sites or in a regulated manner." <- Note, requirement that a more mature product be produced dropped here. . . . % mRNA cleavage involved in gene silencing by miRNA: "The process in which microRNAs (miRNAs) direct the cleavage of target mRNAs. Once incorporated into a RNA-induced silencing complex (RISC), a miRNA will typically direct cleavage by base pairing with near-perfect complementarity to the target mRNA. Many plant miRNAs downregulate gene expression through this mechanism." <--- Clearly not resulting in production of a more mature product.
Potential solution: Need to distinguish cleavage of 3' end prior to polyadenylation, a process involved in maturation, from miRNA guided cleavage at internal site leading to silencing.
Question: should we have a general class for RNA cleavage that covers both cases, or just two specific cases? Need to check usage
Reported by: dosumis
Original Ticket: geneontology/ontology-requests/11642