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issues with cap binding complexes #12853

Closed ValWood closed 1 year ago

ValWood commented 7 years ago

current arrangement RNA cap binding complex --mRNA cap binding complex ----GO:0098745 Dcp1-Dcp2 complex ----GO:0034519 cytoplasmic RNA cap binding complex --nuclear cap binding complex

However there don't appear to be any cap binding complexes specific for mRNAs ..the nuclear cap binding complex members could also be annotated to the sibling term mRNA cap binding complex. In fact nuclear cap binding complex has narrow mRNA cap binding complex

ValWood commented 7 years ago

There are 2 versions of the "nuclear" cap complex NCBP1 and NCBP2 or NCBP1 and NCBP3 (a new variant, which also appears to be conserved)

ValWood commented 7 years ago
pgaudet commented 6 years ago

@bmeldal does that proposal seem OK to you ? @krchristie I thought you looked at similar terms recently; maybe you have input on this proposal ?

Thanks, Pascale

krchristie commented 6 years ago

@pgaudet - I have worked on cap structure terms, but not recently. My recollection is that I would tend to agree with @ValWood that the kind of cap on eukaryotic mRNAs is not specific to mRNA. However, I was also under the impression that there a couple different kinds of RNA caps in eukaryotes, so it might be worth checking if there is any need to distinguish between cap binding complexes that distinguish between the two kinds of caps.

Also, interestingly, it seems that NAD+ based caps have been found on some RNAs in E. coli: https://academic.oup.com/nar/article/45/14/8282/3844760 Considering that the structure of these caps is really different than the 7MeG based caps of eukaryotes, it might be undesirable to have the genes of cap binding complexes from E. coli and from eukaryotes annotated to the same term.

bmeldal commented 6 years ago

I have recently curated the CBCs. Yes, they are specific to RNAs but not mRNAs and I had to annotate to both terms, mRNA and nuclear CBC. And yes, the CBC is - among a host of other functions - involved in RNA export from the nucleus and functional in the cytoplasm, e.g. during pioneering round of translation.

https://www.ebi.ac.uk/complexportal/complex/search?query=cbc&page=1

I haven't yet curated the cytoplasmic cap-binding complex eIF4F that replaces CBC during translation.

pgaudet commented 6 years ago

@bmeldal we also have 'eukaryotic translation initiation factor 4F complex' for eIF4F; do we really need GO:0034519 cytoplasmic RNA cap binding complex ? I would propose to also obsolete that.

pgaudet commented 6 years ago

With @valwood's proposed changes, this is what this part of the ontology now looks like

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I propose to also get rid of GO:0034519 cytoplasmic RNA cap binding complex (0 annotations). Thanks, Pascale

pgaudet commented 6 years ago

(In case we decide to obsolete GO:0005845 mRNA cap binding complex

bmeldal commented 6 years ago

There are 2 alternative translation initiation processes that require alternative cap-binding complexes:

CBC-dependent translation initiation:

1. (classic) nuclear cap-binding complex, also known as CBC or CBP20-CBP80 complex, usually composed of NCBP1 & NCBP2. https://www.ebi.ac.uk/complexportal/complex/CPX-1427 GO:0005846 nuclear cap binding complex

2. alternative nuclear cap-binding complex, usually composed of NCBP1 & NCBP3. https://www.ebi.ac.uk/complexportal/complex/CPX-3624 annotated to GO:0005846 nuclear cap binding complex

CBC binds most RNAs in the nucleus (the alternative form has a restricted repertoire of substrates) and facilitates their export into the cytoplasm.

or eIF4E-dependent translation initiation:

3. eukaryotic translation initiation factor 4F complex, also known as cytoplasmic cap-binding complex or eIF4F complex, usually consisting of eIF4E, eIF4A and eIF4G. https://www.ebi.ac.uk/complexportal/complex/CPX-430 https://www.ebi.ac.uk/complexportal/complex/CPX-431 [2 yeast variants] GO:0016281 eukaryotic translation initiation factor 4F complex

However, while it has been demonstrated that CBC binds RNA in the nucleus, the papers I have look at so far for eIF4E (and I have not exhausted that yet!) assume it binds the RNA in the cytoplasm. Hence, many papers/reviews (e.g. 23804756-F6, 24354960-F4) describe the process as a successive one where CBC is replaced by eIF4E. However, review 28088948-F1 describes the 2 processes as independent, 20094052 has a nice figure (F1) for eIF4E-dep TI but doesn't include CBC.

In any case, once in the cytoplasm, the 43S ribosomal preinitiation complex, that includes eIF3 complex, binds either cap-binding complex and the RNA.

4. Going by the def [A protein complex found in the cytoplasm that binds the 5' cap structure of an mRNA, and typically consists of the cap-binding protein eIF4E, the adaptor protein eIF4G, and a multi-factor complex comprising eIF1, eIF2, eIF3 and eIF5. This complex mediates recruitment of the 40S subunit to mRNA. PMID:16405910] GO:0034519 cytoplasmic RNA cap binding complex appear to be a supercomplex, consisting of

5. GO:0098745 Dcp1-Dcp2 complex [Def: A protein complex consisting of a Dcp1 regulatory subunit and a Dcp2 catalytic subunit that has mRNA cap binding activity and is involved in decapping of nuclear-transcribed mRNA. PMID:22323607] https://www.ebi.ac.uk/complexportal/complex/CPX-1628 seems to be involved in the decapping of the RNA to ready it for degradation. It may have cap-binding properties but I wouldn't call it cap-binding complex as that name is reserved for the translation initiation complexes.

Therefore, I think there are only 2 "true" cap-binging complexes, the CBC (pts 1&2) and eIF4E (p3). I wouldn't distinguish between nuclear and cytoplasmic versions in the ontology as our knowledge may be incomplete on eIF4E.

You could add Dcp1-Dcp2 complex, but its role is the opposite to the other 2 (degradation vs translation initiation).

As for GO:0034519 cytoplasmic RNA cap binding complex - I don't think that's a true complex, it's an assembly intermediate for the assembly of the fully active ribosome!

My 2p, and I have to shoot off!

Birgit

ValWood commented 6 years ago

sounds sensible

ValWood commented 3 years ago

I wondered which was my oldest ticket. This one by a long way. I think we could just close this. Its mainly now about nuclear vs. cytoplasmic versions of the same complex. Note- for these mRNA cap complexes I. think there are nuclear and cytoplasmic versions. Anyway I have not noticed any issues recently and I'm sure there have been subsequent tickets. Closing..... yay!

pgaudet commented 3 years ago

~Should I not merge into mRNA cap binding complex ?~

pgaudet commented 3 years ago

(1) pre-mRNA cap binding complex; components: CBP20 and CBP80 => change label to CBC cap binding complex (2) mRNA cap binding complex ; components: cap-binding protein eIF4E, the adaptor protein eIF4G, and a multi-factor complex comprising eIF1, eIF2, eIF3 and eIF5.

pgaudet commented 3 years ago
pgaudet commented 3 years ago

NOTE that Dcp1-Dcp2 complex is inactive; Dcp2 is the inhibitory subunit.

Similarly, "DcpS is an 80 kDa homo-dimeric enzyme. In PMID:26258763 the human complex has been crystallized in its ligand free form and in the presence of minimal cap substrates (e.g. m7GpppG) as well as in complex with pharmaceutically relevant inhibitors".

pgaudet commented 3 years ago

@bmeldal GO:0106095 m7G(5')pppN diphosphatase complex did not exist when that ticket was created; do you agree this is the same complex as Dcp1-Dcp2 complex?

pgaudet commented 3 years ago
pgaudet commented 3 years ago

I propose to merge 'mRNA cap binding complex' (17 EXP) into 'RNA cap binding complex' (3 EXP). Both have been used to mean either 'CBC cap binding complex' or 'eukaryotic translation initiation factor 4F complex'

That would leave the 2 children

OK @bmeldal @ValWood ?

pgaudet commented 3 years ago
pgaudet commented 3 years ago

I also dont like the very generic definition for 'RNA cap binding complex': 'Any protein complex that binds to a specialized RNA cap structure at any time in the lifetime of the RNA.' - this sounds like the MF definition, while in the CC we should be referring to specific complexes. This term should be to group the 2 children (and maybe have a 'do not annotate' flag).

Thanks, Pascale

ValWood commented 3 years ago

seems OK. What is the fate of 'nuclear cap binding complex'? Isn't that also describing CBC?

bmeldal commented 3 years ago

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Hi @pgaudet

Ok, I read back through this ticket and looked at what we've already curated, mainly in yeast but some in human/mouse as well.

My take:

nuclear cap-binding complex

= CBC; typical members: CBP20 and CBP80

-> "CBC cap-binding complex" makes no sense as you are saying " cap-binding complex cap-binding complex" ;-)

=> stick to GO:0005846 nuclear cap binding complex

cytoplasmic cap-binding complex

has 2 terms in GO which were already discussed above:

  1. GO:0016281 eukaryotic translation initiation factor 4F complex = eIF4F = typical members: eIF4A1/A2, eIF4E, eIF4G1/G2

and

  1. GO:0034519 cytoplasmic RNA cap binding complex - which has no annotations and is a supercomplex/assembly step for the 43S ribosomal particle made up of (see above)

Suggestions:

NB:

GO:0034519 cytoplasmic RNA cap binding complex > no annotations. Merge into GO:0005846 (renamed CBC cap binding complex)

No, cytoplasmic CBC = eIF4F - NOT = GO:0005846 nuclear cap binding complex = CBP20-CBP80

GO:0098745 Dcp1-Dcp2 complex (= CPX-1628) and GO:0106095 m7G(5')pppN diphosphatase complex (= CPX-1179, DCS1 dimer)

rename GO:0098745 Dcp1-Dcp2 complex "RNA decapping complex"

GO:0005845 mRNA cap binding complex

I think that's it!

bmeldal commented 3 years ago
* [ ] Should I also add capable of part of some translation initiation ?

Yes, sounds fair. I would put it on the parent term GO:0034518 RNA cap binding complex

bmeldal commented 3 years ago

I also dont like the very generic definition for 'RNA cap binding complex': 'Any protein complex that binds to a specialized RNA cap structure at any time in the lifetime of the RNA.' - this sounds like the MF definition, while in the CC we should be referring to specific complexes. This term should be to group the 2 children (and maybe have a 'do not annotate' flag).

* [ ]   How about 'A protein complex that binds to an RNA cap structure to mediate RNA processing and/or translation initiation. ?
  (not sure it's that much better).

Thanks, Pascale

Happy with that.

bmeldal commented 3 years ago

Apologies, @pgaudet I think I proposed some of your already proposed merges while getting my head around it all so I think on many things we agree. But a few things not (yet ;-) ).

krchristie commented 3 years ago

Since the two RNA cap structures I know of have different structures, should we specify which type of cap structure is being bound?

ValWood commented 3 years ago

My oldest ticket, so close to closure (a few times!)

ValWood commented 1 year ago

@sjm41 @pgaudet you have been looking at these activities recently. Maybe can get this ticket over the line. I'm not sure what is outstanding.

pgaudet commented 1 year ago

Making changes suggested by Brigit : https://github.com/geneontology/go-ontology/issues/12853#issuecomment-734850916

pgaudet commented 1 year ago

I will not do

Obsolete GO:0005845 mRNA cap binding complex & replace by GO:0034518 RNA cap binding complex (grouping term for all the above!), at least by definition.

because there are annotations to other enzymes, such as decapping enzymes (https://amigo.geneontology.org/amigo/reference/PMID:28533364 - PomBase @ValWood )

Maybe this will need more clean up later

ValWood commented 1 year ago

OK