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Signaling project Change of term: JAK/STAT pathway #14167

Closed gantonazzo closed 5 months ago

gantonazzo commented 7 years ago

Hi

from JAK/STAT pathway - Signaling Project #1628

The current term for JAK/STAT is GO:0007259 JAK-STAT cascade. However, considering the few steps involved in the pathway, and the way most papers refer to it, it would be more appropriated to change this term to

JAK/STAT pathway

This change should be reflected in all the relative child terms and definitions.

@RLovering

RLovering commented 2 years ago

Please confirm agree that

GO:0097696 receptor signaling pathway via STAT needs to be renamed as STAT intracellular signal transduction

As the Jak/STAT is an internal pathway can we move it to:

GO:0007166 cell surface receptor signaling pathway

part of GO:0097696 receptor signaling pathway via STAT

GO:0035556 intracellular signal transduction

is a GO:0097696 receptor signaling pathway via STAT

Similarly GO:0007259 receptor signaling pathway via JAK-STAT to be renamed

JAK-STAT intracellular signal transduction

Thanks Ruth

hattrill commented 2 years ago

@RLovering @gantonazzo
I think that we changed the term name to receptor signaling pathway via JAK-STAT so that we could include the ligands/receptors in the pathway, rather than just the JAK/STAT intracellular bit.

RLovering commented 2 years ago

But why are we including the ligands and receptors? It makes it difficult to try to provide consistant approaches if some intracellular signaling 'cassette' terms have different rules to the rest of the intracellular signaling 'cassette' terms

hattrill commented 2 years ago

So, we changed the name of this because in some cases like Dmel, we only have one pathway "domeless" that acts via JAK/STAT, but as other species e.g. humans have many of receptors that and we wanted a term that encompassed the pathway as a whole. Perhaps, having the term 'JAK-STAT intracelluar signaling cascette' would capture that particular aspect and we could keep 'receptor signaling pathway via STAT'; alternatively, we would need 'Domeless signaling' to provide a term that captures the ligand-TF/effector pathway in the pattern similar to other pathways.

pgaudet commented 2 years ago

Yeah this seems a bit odd to me too - so say TGF would be annotated to both 'TGF signaling' and 'JAK/STAT signaling'?

It seems we want either: TGF signaling is upstram of JAK/STAT signaling', or create the full pathway 'JAK/STAT-activating TGF signaling', a bit like we have for the GPCRs; what do you think?

hattrill commented 2 years ago

Looking at the emails from the orignal discussion, I think the fact that it was just a two-components with no downstream part was the deciding factor was the reason for making it a pathway and removing it from IC signaling, as it would be just 4 components for the pathway as it was: ligand-receptor-Jak-Stat

In favour of the a "whole pathway" term plus casette would be how we handle RTK pathways. @gantonazzo should be back at the end of the week, as she was involved in the orignal working group, best wait for her.

RLovering commented 2 years ago

Based on the agreement for SMAD intracellular signaling ideally TGF would be annotated to 'TGF signaling' AND positive regulation of 'JAK/STAT signaling' AE part of 'TGF signaling'

And JAK and STATs in the TGF pathway will be annotated to: 'TGF signaling' 'JAK/STAT signaling' AE part of 'TGF signaling'

Why not create a GO term unpaired signaling. Then you can have GO:0007166 cell surface receptor signaling pathway

unpaired signaling pathway Then unpaired (1,2,and 3) and dome would be annotated with 'unpaired signaling pathway' AND positive regulation of 'JAK/STAT signaling' AE part of 'unpaired signaling pathway'

And JAK and STAT equivalents would be annotated with 'unpaired signaling pathway' 'JAK/STAT signaling' AE part of 'unpaired signaling pathway'

Then if we create the new relationships: GO:0035556 intracellular signal transduction

is a GO:0097696 renamed JAK-STAT intracellular signal transduction

This would also mean that JAK and STAT equivalents would be associated with 'intracellular signal transduction' term which would be better for these proteins in non-insect species and would not be wrong for Dros JAK and STAT.

Plus currently unpaired and dome are not associated with positive regulation of intracellular signal transduction, but if we do create this consistent annotation approach then hopefully all other ligands and receptors will be associated with a positive/negative regulation of intracellular signal transduction term as well as to the term that describes the ligand/receptor pathway.

Thus if we do not create the JAK/STAT intracellular signal transduction term, we will have to create different guidelines for unpaired and dome than for the other receptors and ligands

hattrill commented 2 years ago

Hi @RLovering - we would definitely need a direct replacement for this pathway, as it makes no sense to just label this distinct pathway with just "unpaired receptor signaling" - probably could go under 'cytokine-mediated signaling pathway'. However, we've have push back on terms that are said to be too specific in the past and we need a specific term for our pathway pages.

We probably need to discuss where regulation begins and ends in pathways - that's not an issue with what you propose - I am fine with the 'closeness' of the R-L to the IC pathway - but should this be where we draw the line - for example, things involved in cytokine secretion shouldn't be +ve reg of jak-stat.

gantonazzo commented 2 years ago

Hi all,

As Helen said, we decided to change the original term since in certain organisms, like Dmel, the pathway doesn't have any downstream section. It just requires 4 components: ligand-receptor-Jak-Stat, so it made sense to include the ligand and the receptors in the pathway itself.

I don't think I am comfortable with the idea of having an "unpaired signaling pathway" term instead of what we currently have. In my opinion, either we go through a "Domeless signalling pathway" term route (but that would probably be too specific), or we keep the current term and add a cassette term to be used in those cases where you want to refer just to the intracellular signalling (which would be my preferred solution).

It all goes back to defining pathway boundaries, which is always tricky!

pgaudet commented 7 months ago

Discussion with @hattrill In fact JAK is linked to the receptor, as far as we can tell: (image from wikipedia): https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/JAK-STAT_signaling_pathway

image

so, it seems weird to de-couple the JAK/STAT from the receptor itself. So, 'cell surface receptor signaling via JAK/STAT' seems most appropriate

pgaudet commented 7 months ago

Fixed label and definition: GO:0007259 -old name: receptor signaling pathway via JAK-STAT +new name: cell surface receptor signaling pathway via JAK-STAT

-old def: "Any process in which STAT proteins (Signal Transducers and Activators of Transcription) a nd JAK (Janus Activated Kinase) proteins convey a signal to trigger a change in the activity or state of a cell. The receptor signaling pathway via JAK-STAT begins with activation of a recepto r and proceeeds through STAT protein activation by members of the JAK family of tyrosine kinases . STAT proteins dimerize and subsequently translocate to the nucleus. The pathway ends with regu lation of target gene expression by STAT proteins." [GOC:bf, GOC:jl, GOC:signaling, PMID:1203902 8] +new def: "A cell surface receptor signaling pathway in which ligand binding causes the receptor to dimerize, bringing the receptor-associated JAKs into close proximity. The JAKs then phosphorylat e and activate each other on tyrosine residues.This leads to the activation of associated STAT p rotein, causing the STATs to dissociate from the receptor, translocate to the nucleus. The pathw ay ends with regulation of target gene expression by STAT proteins.