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MP GO:0000964 mitochondrial RNA 5'-end processing #14873

Closed ValWood closed 6 years ago

ValWood commented 6 years ago

MP GO:0000964 mitochondrial RNA 5'-end processing

please add parent GO:0000963 mitochondrial RNA processing

pgaudet commented 6 years ago

Changes: (updated - first version was not correct)

NOTE: The parent RNA processing is 'part of' gene expression, so that relation was redundant. Thanks, Pascale

ukemi commented 6 years ago

Are these really necessary and sufficient, particularly the first one?

pgaudet commented 6 years ago

Hi @ukemi Thanks for pointing that out - I miscopied the changed (it's really hard to follow these edits in the diff).

In fact I left RNA processing without a definition (I wasn't able to do a definition that was different from RNA metabolic process).

I hope that makes more sense.

Thanks, Pascale

ValWood commented 6 years ago

I don't think that worked.

mitochondrial RNA processing is still not part of mitochondrial gene expression?

pgaudet commented 6 years ago

image

Isn't this what you wanted ?

ValWood commented 6 years ago

This is correct but still has a parent missing.

"RNA 5' end processing" is a part_of "gene expression"

Therefore "mitochondrial RNA 5' end processing"

should be part of "mitochondrial gene expression"

(we have "mitochondrial gene expression" in our slim because its a largely independent biological "module" and I spotted it because "mitochondrial RNA 5' end processing" annotations are not slimming.

ValWood commented 6 years ago

~Actually, the issue is that "mitochondrial RNA processing" does not have the parent "RNA processing"~ Ignore. It's just the parent of "mitochondrial RNA 5' end processing" needs adding

It seems odd that the reasoner does not find that one?

rna proc

pgaudet commented 6 years ago

Hi @ValWood

what about 3'end processing? Is this part of gene expression ?

ValWood commented 6 years ago

Fits the definition of "RNA processing"

Any process involved in the conversion of one or more primary RNA transcripts into one or more mature RNA molecules.

so it should be, because processing is part of gene expression.

ValWood commented 6 years ago

seems so.... Any process involved in forming the mature 3' end of an RNA molecule.

ValWood commented 6 years ago

Anything pre-translation is gene expression:

gene expression Biological Process

Definition (GO:0010467 GONUTS page) The process in which a gene's sequence is converted into a mature gene product or products (proteins or RNA). This includes the production of an RNA transcript as well as any processing to produce a mature RNA product or an mRNA or circRNA (for protein-coding genes) and the translation of that mRNA or circRNA into protein.

pgaudet commented 6 years ago

I now also added 'part of' some 'gene expression' to RNA 3'-end processing.

However I noticed other oddities in that branch: 1) 'part of' some 'gene expression' seems to be missing from the following terms:

'RNA capping' 'RNA splicing' 'rRNA processing' 'snoRNA processing' 'snRNA processing' 'tRNA processing' 'tRNA-type intron splice site recognition and cleavage'

2) 'RNA capping' should be a child of 'RNA 5'-end processing'

3) 'RNA polyadenylation' should be a child of 'RNA 3'-end processing'

Does that seem reasonable ? If so I'll add the relations. Pascale

ValWood commented 6 years ago

I think so...

Also I'm still not seeing "mitochondrial RNA processing" is part-of "mitochondrial gene expression" in QuickGO or PomBase, but that may just be a time -lag?

https://www.ebi.ac.uk/QuickGO/term/GO:0000963

ValWood commented 6 years ago

mitochondrial gene expression