Closed ValWood closed 3 years ago
Ah! I guess, in the sense that it receives a signal??
This seems incorrect @thomaspd what do you think?
It's kind of weird because it isn't at the top of the pathway. Using this logic any kinase would be a receptor. It acts as a "sensor" but I don't think this should be classed as a "receptor" should it. I don't fully understand "response regulators" though. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Response_regulator
Many of the sensors are TM, hence 'receptors' (I am not sure this applies to ALL, though)
Ah right. I don't think ours our @Antonialock
But isn't this just 2 activities (i.e a multifunctional protein) combined into a single function term, in that case?
I ask Swiss-Prot curators for help.
Hello,
I just spoke to Catherine Rivoire at Swiss-Prot. We propose to
[ ] Merge GO:0000155 - phosphorelay sensor kinase activity (Catalysis of the phosphorylation of a histidine residue in response to detection of an extracellular signal such as a chemical ligand or change in environment, to initiate a change in cell state or activity. The two-component sensor is a histidine kinase that autophosphorylates a histidine residue in its active site. The phosphate is then transferred to an aspartate residue in a downstream response regulator, to trigger a response.) into GO:0009927 histidine phosphotransfer kinase activity (Serves as a phospho-His intermediate enabling the transfer of phospho group between a hybrid kinase and a response regulator.) (and removing the 'signaling receptor activity' parent)
[ ] obsolete 'GO:0000156 phosphorelay response regulator activity' (Responds to a phosphorelay sensor to initiate a change in cell state or activity. The activity of the response regulator is regulated by transfer of a phosphate from a histidine residue in the sensor, to an aspartate residue in the response regulator. Many but not all response regulators act as transcriptional regulators to elicit a response.) This does not correspond to a single activity, it just groups together proteins regulated by histidine phosphotransfer kinase. Both partners can be annotated to the process 'phosphorelay signal transduction system'.
What do you think ? Also notifying @tberardini @keseler @sandyl27 @jimhutamu
I don't think the upstream regulators of pombe mak1/2/3 (the histidine kinases) are known. I wouldn't think of them as receptors, they are not TM?
I don't understand your proposed changes Pascale I think these systems are slightly different in eukaryotes comapred to prokaryotes In prokaryotes you have "true" two-component regulatory systems, but eukaryotic systems tend to be a bit more complicated (multistep phosphorelay, not just 2 components).
in pombe we have annotated: phosphorelay sensor kinase activity - mak1, mak2, mak3, histidine phosphotransfer kinase activity - mpr1 phosphorelay response regulator activity - mcs4, prr1
e.g.
and if you obsolete GO:0000156 phosphorelay response regulator activity, then what shouldw e annotate to instead (for the cases above?)
OK very good, we will keep all the terms - in the 4-component version of the cascade, the phosphorelay sensor kinase and histidine phosphotransfer kinase activities are mediated by separate members of the pathway.
Thanks @Antonialock
I would like to hear from @thomaspd about Val's original question: is phosphorelay sensor kinase activity a signaling receptor activity? This fits the current definition of signaling receptor activity, "Receiving a signal and transmitting it in the cell to initiate a change in cell activity. A signal is a physical entity or change in state that is used to transfer information in order to trigger a response.", but is this too vast ?
Thanks, Pascale
I finally had time to look at this issue. I agree with @Antonialock. Thanks for keeping the terms.
@Antonialock I need a littte more help:
the definition is "Catalysis of the phosphorylation of a histidine residue in response to detection of an extracellular signal such as a chemical ligand or change in environment, to initiate a change in cell state or activity. The two-component sensor is a histidine kinase that autophosphorylates a histidine residue in its active site. The phosphate is then transferred to an aspartate residue in a downstream response regulator, to trigger a response."
I think that last sentence describes the GO:0009927 histidine phosphotransfer kinase activity (which is why I thought of a merge initially); do you think we should specify that this may be a different activity(in the 4-component system)?
Thanks, Pascale
Ok, this just got a bit more complicated...
Looking at wikipedia there might be a case to make these two different things in terms of MFs? (I always thought of multistep phosphorelays as a more complicated version of 2component systems, but they actually look a bit different, at least according to wikipedia...).
2 component system
multistep phosphorelay
assuming this is all true (it's from wikipedia....but I don't have time to dig deeper into it right now):
For 2 component systems: -HK can be annotated to GO:0000155 phosphorelay sensor kinase activity (rename term to 2-component sensor kinase activity to avoid confusion?) -Annotate RR to GO:0000156 but change the def to reflect that the RR catalyzes the transfer (note: need to check that wikipedia isn't wrong about this)
for multistep phosphorelay systems
Hi @Antonialock
I can see a case for making two processes; but shouldn't we just make two annotations to the proteins having both sensor kinase and and phosphotrasfer activities ?
And regarding
hPt to GO:0009927? - may need two terms? one for dimeric catalytic proteins and one for noncatalytic monomeric proteins?
I suggest we use 'contributes to' for the dimeric forms; we shouldn't create separate terms.
What do you think ?
Pascale
Sounds ok I think?
I’m happy to annotate according to the excellent guidelines that accompany the terms :-P
We can probably close this?
phosphorelay sensor kinase activity is no longer is_a receptor
is classed as a signaling receptor activity is that correct?