Closed ValWood closed 5 years ago
Now it gets a little more complicated: Whilst curating this paper we found other terms that could be used interchangably with GO:0080185 effector dependent induction by symbiont of host immune response (the ones I originally used before locating the correct term).
the item below was moved to https://github.com/geneontology/go-ontology/issues/17017 ~These were GO:0002229 | defense response to oomycetes GO:0034052 | positive regulation of plant-type hypersensitive response This raised 2 questions. There are lots of "defense response to (oomycete, fungi etc) "....terms but this seems to be an orthogonal way of describing the first or second responses. There are different responses required to deal with different organisms, but shouldn't these be dealt with differently? besed on: Plants have evolved a multilevel innate immune system to protect them against infection by a diverse range of pathogens, including viruses, bacteria, fungi, oomycetes, and nematodes. Despite the great evolutionary distance among phytopathogens, the outcome of the plant–pathogen interactions is controlled by the same principles These response to terms are not really saying anything about the mechanism in most branches, and they encourage inconsistent curation. defense response to oomycete 48 EXP defense response to fungus 696 EXP it would be much more useful to say the type of response. It seems that curators are annotating only in one branch.~
~Sometimes descendants, are added to capture mechanisms, which results in 2 ways to say the same thing... GO:0009817 defense response to fungus, incompatible interaction (we figured that this means whether or not a plant can mount a hypersensitive cell-death response, and it in effect a term to describe the extent of pathogenicity/virulence and is therefore out of scope for GO SUGGEST obsoletion? antifungal innate immune response (14 EXP) as children I would suggest merging these terms into the most general mechanism terms. If this isn't possible we can't describe processes simply and we would then need to request specific terms to link these processes: e.g. GO:XXXXXXX effector dependent induction by oomycete of host immune response GO:XXXXXXX effector dependent induction by fungus of host immune response child of https://www.ebi.ac.uk/QuickGO/term/GO:0061760 and GO:0080185 effector dependent induction by symbiont of host immune response which seems another option, if for some reason we really need to keep the classification by pathogen type~
ALso tagging @hattrill as fly use defense response to organism terms.
Maybe people want this axis of classifications, but it seems that using this branch means that you don't capture important details about mechanism innate, humoral, effector triggered immunity, PAMP-triggered immunity etc.....if you classifly/annotate by pathogen
Yes, we've been talking about this too: defense response to fungus, defense response to gram negative bacterium, defense response to gram positive bacterium
are not linked to innate immunity, etc. and there are many terms that could potentially describe one biological response to a pathogen e.g. recognition of a gram positive bacterium molecule that triggers the production of anti-microbial peptides can be annotated with many different terms, and it is not entirely clear on how we would use these in annotation consistently.
We have signaling pathways that are specific for gram positive, negative bacteria, fungi and viruses, so it is useful to capture that specificity. I should think that these pathogen recognition pathways are always "innate" - or would that be wrong? I am thinking IgE and parasites - I am not sure of the adaptive component there.
@dhldhl (Donghui): Can you please have a look at this? Yes, I'll pulling you back into the GO world, with hope that your combined background in ontology development and plant-pathogen interactions can help us out. Thanks.
This is a good review article on innate immunity in plants: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/16497589 I think the challenge here is that many of the GO terms try to describe the same process but each captures one aspect/subset of the process from different perspective, they overlap with each other; often used interchangeably but also with subtle difference or emphasis:
Effector triggered immunity (effector is from the pathogen perspective) (plant type) hypersensitive response or R protein mediated resistance (this describes the same process from plant/host perspective)
defense response to xxx (pathogen) - these are more generic terms used when specific mechanisms are unknown. TAIR has a large # of annotations to these terms, so caution if the proposal is to obsolete them.
PAMGO created lots of terms from the microbe-host interactions perspective. My personal opinion is that while these terms are very specific, they are hard to use and hard for people (particularly users of GO) to understand. https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2654661/
My 2cents are while we want to be specific, I'd prefer we preserve terms that are commonly used/accepted by the research community (terms such as PTI, ETI, HR, defense response etc), perhaps improve on the synonyms fields.
I agree that this is an area that should probably be re-visited to make sure we are capturing the most useful aspects of classification and consistent in our annotation. We should think about the scope of what we want/need to do in this area. @ValWood - could you provide a quick summary, though, of what immediate actions you would like and then maybe we can think more about a larger project.
Yes I will do a summary. It probably won't be this week. I'll wait until I next speak with Alayne (@CuzickA ) and work through it with her.
Thanks @dhldhl that really useful.
I have broken this down into separate tickets,
https://github.com/geneontology/go-ontology/issues/17017 https://github.com/geneontology/go-ontology/issues/17014 https://github.com/geneontology/go-ontology/issues/17013 https://github.com/geneontology/go-ontology/issues/17012
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val
Effector triggered immunity (effector is from the pathogen perspective) (plant type) hypersensitive response or R protein mediated resistance (this describes the same process from plant/host perspective)
Although the effector is a pathogen derived entity, Effector triggered immunity is a host process and defined in GO as a host process, and has only been used to annotate plant gene products. Pathogen genes could, however, be annotated to "supression" of this process.
hypersensitive resonse (HRR) is a "readout" for ETI, it is a process that occurs in reponse to the "effector triggered immunity" signalling.
Attention @lreiser (TAIR) @ebakker2 (TAIR) @tberardini (TAIR) @CuzickA (PHI_Base)
As part of the PHI-Base project we are building and ontology to represent and annotate pathogen host interaction phenotypes. These terms will be logically defined using GO terms to describe 'normal' processes . We will also provide GO annotations for pathogen species and occasionaly for host species.
As part of the tool development I was curating this paper: PMID:20601497 Activation of an Arabidopsis resistance protein is specified by the in planta association of its leucine-rich repeat domain with the cognate oomycete effector. Authors | Krasileva KV, Dahlbeck D, Staskawicz BJ
And we encounterd a few problems with the GO terms we would to use to describe the Arabidopsis protein.
Background for GO editors Plants have evolved a multilevel innate immune system to protect them against infection by a diverse range of pathogens, including viruses, bacteria, fungi, oomycetes, and nematodes. Despite the great evolutionary distance among phytopathogens, the out- come of the plant–pathogen interactions is controlled by the same principles: the ability of the pathogen to suppress the plant immune system to establish infection, and the ability of plants to recognize the presence of a pathogen and to induce immune responses that restrict pathogen growth.
Plants innate immune systems have 2 main components:
First line of defense: PAMP- triggered immunity (PTI) Upon association with PAMPs, the pattern-recognition receptors activate a downstream mitogen-activated protein kinase signaling cascade that culminates in transcriptional activation and generation of the innate immune responses To interfere with PTI effector proteins that are delivered into and function within the host plant cells
Second line of defense: Effector-triggered immunity https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Effector-triggered_immunity The second layer of plant immunity depends on the ability of the plant to recognize these pathogen- derived effectors and trigger a robust resistance response that normally culminates in a hypersensitive cell death response (HR) Effector-triggered immunity is mediated by a large group of structurally related intracellular innate immune receptors encoded by resistance (R) genes.
RPP1, MOLECULAR FUNCTION
So RPP1 is an "intracellular signalling receptor" for the "pathogen-derived effectors" We couldn't find anything suitable for this under "signaling receptor activity" https://www.ebi.ac.uk/QuickGO/term/GO:0038023 SUGGEST NTR: intracellular innate receptor activity synonym related resistance gene synonym related receptor recognition Combining with an effector entity produced by a pathogen in order to activate effector-triggered immunity in a host. PMID: 21490299 is one paper that uses this term to describe such receptors, however the term might not be specific enough to describe effector-triggered immunity. It would be OK to make the activity definition more general if necessary (we can link the activity to the process to capture this detail).
Notes/Comments:
RPP1 BIOLOGICAL PROCESS
~We looked for the term to describe the process "Effector-triggered immunity" and eventually located GO:0080185 effector dependent induction by symbiont of host immune response which is very nicely defined Any process that involves recognition of an effector, and by which an organism activates, maintains or increases the frequency, rate or extent of the immune response of the host organism; the immune response is any immune system process that functions in the calibrated response of an organism to a potential internal or invasive threat. The host is defined as the larger of the organisms involved in a symbiotic interaction. Effectors are proteins secreted into the host cell by pathogenic microbes, presumably to alter host immune response signaling. The best characterized effectors are bacterial effectors delivered into the host cell by type III secretion system (TTSS). Effector-triggered immunity (ETI) involves the direct or indirect recognition of an effector protein by the host (for example through plant resistance or R proteins) and subsequent activation of host immune response. PMID:16497589 but is there any reason why the primary term name can't be "Effector-triggered immunity"? 2,440,000 results "effector dependent induction by symbiont of host immune response" About 223 results presumably all from GO. I very nearly missed this term. And it only has 5 annotations which is no surprise!~
transferred to https://github.com/geneontology/go-ontology/issues/17014