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Merge and rename 'autophagy involved in symbiotic interaction' and children #17055

Closed pgaudet closed 1 year ago

pgaudet commented 5 years ago

Hello,

I think this 'autophagy involved in symbiotic interaction' triad should be cleaned:

Only 'GO:0075044 autophagy of host cells involved in interaction with symbiont' has been used - it looks like a defense mechanism to clear infection.

Pascale

marcfeuermann commented 5 years ago

Hi, Autophagy plays indeed an important role in host-symbiont interactions, and I totally agree with Pascale, some cleaning of the existing terms seems necessary.

GO:0075071 - autophagy involved in symbiotic interaction: This term looks really weird. One of the roles of autophagy is the defense against pathogens, So autophagy is "almost always" involved in symbiotic interactions. We even have created the term xenophagy . So, all host autophagic proteins can be annotated with GO:0075071.

However, there are proteins of the symbionts that indeed regulate autophagy of the host, to block it or to hijack it to their advantage (via a positive regulation). So I would replace 'GO:0075071 - autophagy involved in symbiotic interaction' by 'modulation by symbiont of host autophagic process', which will be a child of 'GO:0044068 - modulation by symbiont of host cellular process'.

As this modulation could be a positive or a negative regulation I would propose to create the following children: 'positive regulation by symbiont of host autophagic process' (this would replace GO: GO:0075044) 'negative regulation by symbiont of host autophagic process'

I've never seen a case where the host regulates the autophagy of the symbiont. Even if it cannot be ruled out. There is always the possibility to create a new and more appropriate term in the future, if we find that such a case was indeed described.

I'm not sure the terms 'GO:0075072 - autophagy of symbiont cells involved in interaction with host' and 'GO:0075073 autophagy of symbiont cells on or near host surface' are relevant. They were infered from PMID:18837106. Many papers describe the importance of autophagy of the fungus Magnaporthe oryzae in virulence toward its host. Again, there is no specific autophagy process for infection/virulence. Moreover, as mentioned earlier, the host plant does not play any role in regulating autophagy of the fungus.

I hope this will be helpful. May be @ukemi, you might have some suggestions. Regards, Marc.

ukemi commented 5 years ago

Hi @marcfeuermann During the autophagy overhaul, if I recall correctly we did not modify these terms. I've always hesitated to modify the organism interaction terms without input from experts.

ValWood commented 5 years ago

Hi @marcfeuermann I like these suggestions and fully support changing to "modulation by symbiont of host autophagic process" this is much clearer than existing term names.

The existing term names in this branch give me a head-spin.

I also fully favour removing the unnecessary parent groupings to represent everything reciprocally if we have no use case.

pgaudet commented 5 years ago

Thanks @marcfeuermann

To summarize:

Obsolete these terms: 'GO:0075191 autophagy of host cells on or near symbiont surface' 'GO:0075072 autophagy of symbiont cells involved in interaction with host' > consider xenophagy GO:0098792 'GO:0075073 autophagy of symbiont cells on or near host surface' > consider xenophagy GO:0098792 'GO:0075074 spore autophagy involved in appressorium formation on or near host'

Is that right ?

Thanks, Pascale

marcfeuermann commented 5 years ago

If you put all these terms downstream of GO:0044068 - modulation by symbiont of host cellular process it is fine for me :-) Thanks a lot Marc

pgaudet commented 5 years ago

Dear all,

The proposal has been made to obsolete 'GO:0075191 autophagy of host cells on or near symbiont surface' 'GO:0075074 spore autophagy involved in appressorium formation on or near host' 'GO:0075072 autophagy of symbiont cells involved in interaction with host' 'GO:0075073 autophagy of symbiont cells on or near host surface'

The reason for obsoletion is that there is no specific autophagy process for infection/virulence. Also, the autophagy of symbiont by hosts can been captured using the term 'xenophagy GO:0098792'.

There are no experimental annotations to this term, no mapping. This term is not included in any subsets (slims).

Any comments can be added to the issue: https://github.com/geneontology/go-ontology/issues/17055 We are opening a comment period for this proposed obsoletion. We’d like to proceed and obsolete this term on April 3rd. Unless objections are received by April 3rd, we will assume that you agree to this change.

Thanks, Pascale

genegodbold commented 5 years ago

Forgive me for interjecting, but I'm trying to help out a group seeking to improve PathGO so I've been following you to see how you deal with GO. I've been annotating virulence proteins for a long time. I don't know if it is helpful, but there are a few examples of bacterial parasites manipulating host xenophagic processes. It's a form of immune evasion on the part of the bug.

BopA from Burkholderia pseudomallei is a type III secretion system effector. It prevents targeting of the bacterium by an LC3-associated phagocytosis which is also a sort of xenophagy (PMID22790007)

InternalinK from LIsteria monocytogenes appears to have some role in recruiting the host major vault protein to the bacterial surface which appears to protect it from xenophagy (PMID21829365)

SseL from Salmonella is an effector protease and deubiquitinase that reduces elimination of the bacterium by xenophagy (PMID22719249)

Shigella VirA inactivates host Rab1 which prevents host LC3 recruitment and inhibits xenophagy (PMID26015503)

Not that you need my two cents, but I agree with Marc's comments that "autophagy" when applied to "symbionts" is just weird.

Yours, Gene

marcfeuermann commented 5 years ago

Hi Gene, Your input is welcome and these are nice candidates for annotation using the newly created terms. Thanks a lot. Regards, Marc

pgaudet commented 5 years ago

Done! Thanks everyone for the feedback, Pascale

pgaudet commented 2 years ago

Change label to 'suppression of host autophagy' - The multi-organism WG has decided to use "induction" and "suppression" of host processes to distinguish from normal regulation.

genegodbold commented 2 years ago

Hey @pgaudet, I like "suppression", but I think "induction" is an inappropriate word choice (https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/induction). It connotes a passivity which doesn't fit here.

Parent terms for these on/off binaries are often "modulation" and that's fine, though I prefer terms like "manipulation" and "hijacking" when it comes to parasites, as I think they better capture the alien/foreign character of how the parasite attempts to exert its molecular program on the host.

"Instigation" or "Enhancement" might work better for the encouragement by the parasite of a host process.

pgaudet commented 1 year ago

+[Term] +id: GO:0141088 +name: symbiont-mediated activation of host autophagy +namespace: biological_process +def: "A process in which a symbiont initiates, promotes, or enhances the activation of autophagy in the host cell. The host is defined as the larger of the organisms involved in a symbiotic interaction." [GOC:pg] +synonym: "induction of host autophagy" EXACT [] +synonym: "positive regulation by symbiont of host autophagy" EXACT [] +is_a: GO:0075071 ! symbiont-mediated perturbation of host autophagy +property_value: term_tracker_item "https://github.com/geneontology/go-ontology/issues/17055" xsd:anyURI +created_by: pg +creation_date: 2023-07-19T14:39:06Z

@genegodbold if you have non-viral papers for this, I would add them to this term.

genegodbold commented 1 year ago

@pgaudet, I also have quite a few bacterial factors that inhibit autophagy/xenophagy