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NTR: regulation terms for viral gene silencing in virus induced gene silencing #19958

Closed hattrill closed 4 years ago

hattrill commented 4 years ago

The process that I want capture from https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/30308158/ is

RNA virus protein CrPV-1A inhibits AGO-2 in the production of siRNAs involved in RNA virus gene silencing.

AGO-2 is involved in RNA virus gene silencing by siRNAs (produced from diced viral dsRNAs) via silencing complex loading.

I think that having regulation terms for 'viral gene silencing in virus induced gene silencing' GO:0060145
Def "The posttranscriptional gene silencing of viral genes after viral infection. " might do the job, but I am not quite sure about this.

@pgaudet - have you any insight from the pathogens working group?

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hattrill commented 4 years ago

Any chance of having a new term before Nov release?

pgaudet commented 4 years ago

Thanks for the ping @hattrill

Looks like we need the normal host process 'RNAi-mediated antiviral immunity', and this term would be 'suppression of host RNAi-mediated antiviral immunity' - does that seem right to you ?

Thanks, Pascale

hattrill commented 4 years ago

Looking at the paper, that does seem like a better solution/description. I would be happt with that.

pgaudet commented 4 years ago

The term 'virus induced gene silencing' is described as a technique, see PMID:12828943, http://www.plantphysiol.org/content/142/1/21 and many other references. Otherwise it does seem like its the same as ' RNAi-mediated antiviral immune response'.

In https://www.longdom.org/open-access/applications-of-virus-induced-gene-silencing-vigs-in-plant-functional-genomics-studies-2329-9029-1000229.pdf they describe VIGS as follows:

Post transcriptional gene silencing (PTGS) is an epigenetic phenomenon that results in the sequence specific degradation of endogenous mRNAs [8] There are several evidences pointing to the evolution of PTGS as an antiviral mechanism in plants [1,8,13]. Viruses by themselves can trigger PTGS in certain plant species [8,14]. Viruses are not passive in the face of plant defense, and they have evolved proteins that can act as suppressors of PTGS [8,15]. The main triggering molecule of PTGS is double stranded RNA, dsRNA.

@tberardini do you think I can rename that term RNAi-mediated antiviral immune response ?

GO:0009616 virus induced gene silencing |  179 annotations in QuickGO

We also need to look at children (can be done later)

GO:0051215 DNA virus induced gene silencing | 0 annotations (as mentioned above, the main trigger is RNA) GO:0051214 RNA virus induced gene silencing | 97 annotations in QuickGO -> is probably the same process / merge OR obsolete and suggest REPLACED BY GO:0009616 RNAi-mediated antiviral immune response

GO:0060144 host cellular process involved in virus induced gene silencing | 0 annotations GO:0060146 host gene silencing in virus induced gene silencing | 0 annotations -> probably do not exist -> obsolete

GO:0060145 viral gene silencing in virus induced gene silencing | 10 annotations in QuickGO GO:0060150 viral triggering of virus induced gene silencing | 0 annotations -> probably means the same as 'RNAi-mediated antiviral immune response' = merge OR obsolete and suggest REPLACED BY GO:0009616 RNAi-mediated antiviral immune response

@tberardini @hattrill does this seem OK to you ?

Thanks, Pascale

tberardini commented 4 years ago

@tberardini do you think I can rename that term RNAi-mediated antiviral immune response ?

@pgaudet Yes. Please retain 'VIGS' and 'viral-induced gene silencing' as synonyms. Thanks.

pgaudet commented 4 years ago

New term created:

+[Term] +id: GO:0140533 +name: suppression of host RNAi-mediated antiviral immune response +namespace: Any process in which a symbiont stops, prevents, or reduces the rate or extent of the host's RNAi-mediated antiviral immune response. The host is defined as the larger of the organisms involved in a symbiotic interaction. +namespace: biological_process +synonym: "suppression of host RNAi-mediated antiviral immunity" EXACT [] +synonym: "suppression of host RNAi-mediated gene silencing" EXACT [] +is_a: GO:0052170 ! suppression by symbiont of host innate immune response +property_value: term_tracker_item https://github.com/geneontology/go-ontology/issues/19958 xsd:anyURI +created_by: pg +creation_date: 2020-10-28T07:55:27Z +

Other changes:

id: GO:0009616 -name: virus induced gene silencing -> change label to 'RNAi-mediated antiviral immunity'

Also, it looks like the response to DNA viruses and RNA viruses use slightly different pathways (see PMID:17693253), at least in plants, so I kept both terms: id: GO:0051214 -name: RNA virus induced gene silencing -> change label to "RNAi-mediated antiviral immunity against RNA virus"

I hope this addresses what you wanted @hattrill Thanks, Pascale

pgaudet commented 4 years ago

Open question:

pgaudet commented 4 years ago

Also merged: GO:0060145 viral gene silencing in virus induced gene silencing | 10 annotations in QuickGO GO:0060150 viral triggering of virus induced gene silencing | 0 annotations

into GO:0009616 'RNAi-mediated antiviral immune response'

hattrill commented 4 years ago

Thanks @pgaudet that seems fine to me.

Certainly, 'innate immunity' is where we're coming from.

hattrill commented 4 years ago

Hi @pgaudet can I ask a question about using "suppression of host RNAi-mediated antiviral immune response" - when host proteins are "hijacked" to aid this, can we use this term? It is resticted to the symbiont in the definitiion and never_in metazoans. Or perhaps would be better to have regulation terms for 'RNAi-mediated antiviral immune response' and its children and use those for hijacked proteins?

pgaudet commented 4 years ago

Hi @hattrill Generally we would like to hijacked proteins to be annotated as such, to show that this is not their normal function. For example we have 'virus receptor activity'.

In this case I dont understand how the host would mediate its own immune response ?

hattrill commented 4 years ago

So, the viral protein forms a new E3 ligase complex with host components and then targets the host AGO-2 protein which mediates the viral silencing for degradation.

pgaudet commented 4 years ago

Interesting !!

@ValWood @dsiegele @mgiglio99 @thomaspd @cmungall what do you think ?

ValWood commented 4 years ago

The same as @pgaudet - these are not normal/evolved processes for the host, and GO represents normal processes. The host pathways are being manipulated by the pathogen. It's interesting, but outside the scope of GO.

You can annotate the viral proteins to whichever inhibition of the relevant host enzymes/pathways.

For more detail of the specific phenotypes caused by the virus you would need to use a pathogen-host interaction phenotype ontology that models this in more detail.

hattrill commented 4 years ago

Ok. yes - used for viral protein.