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NTR: chromatin maintenance during transcription elongation #21730

Closed pgaudet closed 3 years ago

pgaudet commented 3 years ago

Please provide as much information as you can:

ValWood commented 3 years ago

I think we already have a term that was supposed to represent this process:

GO:0048096 chromatin-mediated maintenance of transcription

mah11 commented 3 years ago

That one's worded the other way round (iow, what's being retained? sounds like it's chromatin structure in the new term, but the transcriptional state in GO:0048096). The text defs also suggest that the terms apply on different timescales - GO:0048096 refers to "maintained over many cell divisions" and "heritable", whereas the new term doesn't.

ValWood commented 3 years ago

GO:0048096 refers to "maintained over many cell divisions"

Can you even maintain transcription over many cell divisions?

ValWood commented 3 years ago

Maybe it is a metazoa specific thing, most EXP annotation are fly to a small number of genes

mah11 commented 3 years ago

I don't know if it's meant to imply that transcription is literally ongoing over successive generations. The comment does scream "multicellular organisms", though (not just metazoa; homeotic genes are all over plants too).

ValWood commented 3 years ago

There are also SGD annotation.   | ELF1 | Transcription elongation factor with a conserved zinc finger domain

which is likely a better fit for the new term.

ValWood commented 3 years ago

from https://github.com/geneontology/go-annotation/issues/3834

..I would not read this term and think it was the correct term for the current annotations to histone exchange?

chromatin maintenance during transcriptional elongation The maintenance of chromatin structure following passage of RNA polymerase II during transcription elongation, that prevents trans-histone exchange in transcribed regions.

The definition says it prevents trans-histone exchange so is it defined by what it isn't doing rather than what it is doing? Should it be "the maintenance of chromatin structure by blah (whatever it is doing to histones)

ValWood commented 3 years ago

Could you provide a list of the complexes which should be annotated to this process?

ValWood commented 3 years ago

Here is an example that was annotated to histone exchange:

Swr1 complex Definition A multisubunit protein complex that is involved in chromatin remodeling. It is required for the incorporation of the histone variant H2AZ into chromatin. In S. cerevisiae, the complex contains Swr1p, a Swi2/Snf2-related ATPase, and 12 additional subunits.

But if I annotate this to "chromatin maintenance during transcriptional elongation" the subunits longer annotated to chromatin remodelling, even though the complex is defined as involved in chromatin remodelling ??????

ValWood commented 3 years ago

similarly Ino80 complex GO:0031011

A multisubunit protein complex that contains the Ino80p ATPase; exhibits chromatin remodeling activity and 3' to 5' DNA helicase activity. [PMID:19355820]

Although in GO chromatin remodeling isn't an activity and I don't think this is any longer considered to be a DNA helicase?

ValWood commented 3 years ago

FACT complex An abundant nuclear complex, which was originally identified in mammalian systems as a factor required for transcription elongation on chromatin templates. The FACT complex has been shown to destablilize the interaction between the H2A/H2B dimer and the H3/H4 tetramer of the nucleosome, thus reorganizing the structure of the nucleosome. In this way, the FACT complex may play a role in DNA replication and other processes that traverse the chromatin, as well as in transcription elongation. FACT is composed of two proteins that are evolutionarily conserved in all eukaryotes and homologous to mammalian Spt16 and SSRP1. In metazoans, the SSRP1 homolog contains an HMG domain; however in fungi and protists, it does not. For example, in S. cerevisiae the Pob3 protein is homologous to SSRP1, but lacks the HMG chromatin binding domain. Instead, the yFACT complex of Spt16p and Pob3p, binds to nucleosomes where multiple copies of the HMG-domain containing protein Nhp6p have already bound, but Nhp6p does not form a stable complex with the Spt16p/Pob3p heterodimer. [PMID:12934006, PMID:12934007, PMID:16678108]

phew! that one needs an edit ;)

pgaudet commented 3 years ago

GO:0048096 chromatin-mediated maintenance of transcription means that when the chromatin remodeling allows transcription (ie opens the chromatin)

while the term we have created here, chromatin maintenance during transcription elongation, rebuilds the chromatin after passage of RNA polymerase II.

I will add a comment to that effect.

pgaudet commented 3 years ago

Also need to add 'part of 'GO:0006368 transcription elongation from RNA polymerase II promoter'

ValWood commented 3 years ago

GO:0048096 should be a descendant of chromatin remodelling too.

pgaudet commented 3 years ago

is GO:0048096 'remodeling'? since it's 'maintenance', I understand this to mean to does not change the chromatin structure? This branch will be reorganized anyway.

ValWood commented 3 years ago

My expert (Karl Ekwall) says this is still considered to be 'remodelling'.

Isn't the chromatin remodelling anything which exchanges histones? Possibly 'remodelling' refers to dynamic changes that occur during maintenance. If the "chromatin maintenance during transcription elongation" does not go under remodelling then that would mean that most of the SWI/SNF family would not be classed as remodelling. I wonder how much would be left as 'chromatin remodelling' in this case?

ValWood commented 3 years ago

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chromatin_remodeling "Chromatin remodeling is the dynamic modification of chromatin architecture to allow access of condensed genomic DNA to the regulatory transcription machinery proteins, and thereby control gene expression."

ValWood commented 3 years ago

OK got it. This is not a replacement for any existing term.

pgaudet commented 3 years ago

Transcription workshop - @colinlog @ValWood @RLovering

Changed term label -name: chromatin maintenance during transcription elongation +name: co-transcriptional chromatin reassembly

Changed def -def: "The maintenance of chromatin structure following passage of RNA polymerase II during transcription elongation, that prevents trans-histone exchange in transcribed regions. This process rebuilds the chromatin after passage of RNA polymerase II." [PMID:22922743] +def: "The reestablishment of chromatin structure that was disrupted upon passage of RNA polymerase II during transcription elongation. This process prevents cryptic intragenic transcription initiation." [PMID:22922743]

Changed subclasses -is_a: GO:0070827 ! chromatin maintenance -intersection_of: GO:0043954 ! cellular component maintenance -intersection_of: part_of GO:0006368 ! transcription elongation from RNA polymerase II promoter +is_a: GO:0031497 ! chromatin assembly +intersection_of: GO:0022607 ! cellular component assembly +intersection_of: part_of GO:0006366 ! transcription by RNA polymerase II