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In the ref PMID:35622906, "In addition, there is also evidence for differential localization of γ-TuSC and γ-TuRC complexes (Gao et al. 2019). The combined effect could translate into molecularly distinct MTOCs with differential microtubule nucleation potential, leading to unique microtubule arrays in different regions of a cell. " Doesn't this mean that NOT all γ-TuSC is in γ-TuRC? In other words, the relation should probably be γ-TuRC HAS_PART γ-TuSC (all γ-TuRC contains some γ-TuSC).
Hi @raymond91125 yes you are correct.
@manulera I haven't mentioned the has_part relations in GO, because they confuse everyone (you can't propagate over them in the same way). They are used for relationships between components if a component dies not always exist as part of another component. They are not displayed in QuickGO (because they confuse users).
This is a good example of a part_of that would not work in all contexts, because S. cerevisiae does not have the TuRC, so they would get a TPV if a part_of relation was used.
Doesn't this mean that NOT all γ-TuSC is in γ-TuRC?
Hello @raymond91125. In this case, it does not mean that those gamma-turcs don't have gamma-tusc in them.
From the reference metioned there (Gao et al. 2019)
Three components, γ-tubulin, GCP2 and GCP3, constitute the core structure of the γ-TuRC and are termed the γ-tubulin small complex (γ-TuSC).
The main conclusion from that publication is:
Our data suggest that SPBs consist of γ-tubulin small complexes (γ-TuSCs) at the outer plaque, and larger γ-tubulin ring complexes (γ-TuRC) at the inner plaque.
Several gamma-tusc complexes can assemble into a ring-link structure that is not the cannonical gamma-turc, and also nucleate microtubules. That's what the authors mean when they are saying that they have differential localization, that there are structures that have gamma-tusc complexes but are not canonical gamma-turcs.
From the same publication, the different structures they describe:
Gamma-tusc is the complex of 2 γ-tubulins, 1 GCP2 and 1 GCP3 (2 pink balls, 1 blue oval, 1 purple oval), so you can see it is present in all types of structures.
@manulera Sorry that I did not say it clearly. Yes, it makes sense to me. And as @ValWood said, the has_part relation is the correct one. That is γ-TuRC has_part γ-TuSC.
From http://geneontology.org/docs/ontology-relations/:
The part of relation is used to represent part-whole relationships. part of has a specific meaning in GO, and a part of relation would only be added between A and B if B is necessarily part of A: wherever B exists, it is as part of A, and the presence of the B implies the presence of A. However, given the occurrence of A, we cannot say for certain that B exists.
The logical complement to the part of relation is has part, which represents a part-whole relationship from the perspective of the parent. As with part of, the GO relation has part is only used in cases where A always has B as a part, i.e. where A necessarily has part B. If A exists, B will always exist; however, if B exists, we cannot say for certain that A exists. i.e. all A have part B; some B part of A.
Oh I see now. I had misunderstood. So then yes, has_part it is!
Thanks @raymond91125 A better explanation!
cc @ValWood
The gamma-tubulin small complex is part of the gamma-tubulin ring complex
From PMID:35622906
From this review: https://link.springer.com/article/10.1007/s00709-016-1070-z