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NTR: S-adenosylmethionine-dependent O-methyltransferase activity #25264

Open ValWood opened 1 year ago

ValWood commented 1 year ago

Please provide as much information as you can:

all of the terms which are children of GO:0008171 O-methyltransferase activity and mention S-adenosylmethionine-dependent in their definition.

This allows us to correclty annotate S-adenosylmethionine-dependent O-methyltransferase when we aren't sure abou the specificity

ValWood commented 1 year ago

@pgaudet is this OK?

ValWood commented 1 year ago

If I add this do I need to do a logical def? or is there a design pattern? I'm not sure how this works

ValWood commented 1 year ago

Hi @pgaudet, can I add this?

pgaudet commented 1 year ago

In this case, what is the other type(s) of S-adenosylmethionine-dependent methyltransferase activity ? Is it S-adenosylmethionine-dependent N-methyltransferase activity? ie, where should others terms be classified?

Thanks, Pascale

ValWood commented 1 year ago

I asked about this because I had a mapping to S-adenosylmethionine-dependent methyltransferase activity which appears to be correct. I had annotated to

GO:0010340 | carboxyl-O-methyltransferase activity

I don't know if all GO:0010340 | carboxyl-O-methyltransferase activity are S-adenosylmethionine-dependent though.

but this one is. The IntrePro family is called Class I-like SAM-dependent O-methyltransferase

If there was a term, this family could be mapped to the new term and it would prevent people (function prediction) from predicting it. Of course we could also annotate to both terms too, but that's a bit suboptimal.

ValWood commented 1 year ago

If we can be sure that all GO:0010340 | carboxyl-O-methyltransferase activity are S-adenosylmethionine-dependent we could just move it underneath his term.

ValWood commented 1 year ago

In pombe all t least 15 of the GO:0010340 | carboxyl-O-methyltransferase activity appear to be S-adenosylmethionine-dependent but they are annotated inconsistently

pgaudet commented 1 year ago

If we can be sure that all GO:0010340 | carboxyl-O-methyltransferase activity are S-adenosylmethionine-dependent

I dont know this - @kaxelsen do you know ?

kaxelsen commented 1 year ago

If we can be sure that all GO:0010340 | carboxyl-O-methyltransferase activity are S-adenosylmethionine-dependent

I dont know this - @kaxelsen do you know ?

@pgaudet, asked like that, no we cannot be sure. I have seen that we have tetrahydrofolate dependent demethylases, so maybe there are also tetrahydrofolate dependent methylases.

pgaudet commented 1 year ago

OK thanks @kaxelsen

@ValWood If you want you can go ahead and do this, but keep in mind we wont be helped by external resources to find terms that should be classified under the new grouping.

deustp01 commented 1 year ago

A Google search for tetrahydrofolate dependent _de_methylase turns up this: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1064056/, and a search for tetrahydrofolate dependent methylase turns up this: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3037834/. These look like reminders that SAM can donate methyl groups, and tetrahydrofolate can donate and accept them, and that while the SAM and tetrahydrofolate pathways are interconnected, the actual methylation / demethylation reactions proceed by what look like distinct mechanisms that should have distinct EC numbers?

kaxelsen commented 1 year ago

They are both in EC 2.1.1.-, e.g. 2.1.1.341, vanillate/3-O-methylgallate O-demethylase