Closed hattrill closed 10 months ago
pgaudet
commented
10 months ago Just to be clear, pharma-type delivery systems are out of scope for GO...
For the parent, by analogy to the viral term, this new term should perhaps go under cellular anatomical entity?
edwong57
commented
10 months ago Cellular anatomical entity seemed a reasonable parent for this term. I didn't add "part of" GO:1903561 as it wasn't clear to me that these were always incorporated into extracellular vesicles.
cmungall
commented
10 months ago This is a pretty interesting gene!
@hatrill, are you also requesting a process term too (assembly)? IMO a high-level CC annotation for this gene doesn't add much. The uniprot entry has quite a rich yet concise function statement ( https://www.uniprot.org/uniprotkb/Q7K1U0/entry)
"Master regulator of synaptic plasticity that self-assembles into virion-like capsids that encapsulate RNAs and mediate intercellular RNA transfer from motorneurons to muscles"
Is "virus-like capsid" the best label? Might this encompass too much? In general "other" or "X-like" terms are a bad smell in ontologies.
It looks like the fly protein shares a domain with a yeast protein that is classified as GO:0000943 ! retrotransposon nucleocapsid, also under cellular anatomical entitu https://www.uniprot.org/uniprotkb/Q12173/entry
Wouldn't it be true to say this is also both a capsid, and virus-like, and hence a virus-like capsid? In fact the uniprot text description says "virus-like particle (VLP)". In which case this would be classified under the new term?
Would instead the following make sense:
Not sure if it's always clear when a TE is domesticated though?
My proposed structure above also conflates capsid and nucleocapsid. But isn't the term under discussion also a nucleocapsid (shell + enclosed RNA)?
I'm a bit confused about GO's own views on this as we classify "viral nucleocapsid" as a part-of of "viral capsid" but that seems like classifying an egg as being part of an eggshell. I don't quite get when one would annotate a gene to nucleocapsid vs capsid.
Interesting!
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hattrill
commented
10 months ago For the name, I considered virus-like particle but so I chose it as a synonym rather than the name as this term often used for bacteriophage capsids (and in pharmacological preparations). Virus-like capsid was also used in the literature to describe this structure, so went with this and is accurate for use. Another alternative name I considered was "endogenous capsid" or "host capsid", but I have never seen them in use and they seem a bit subjective. So, I still think "virus-like capsid" is the best compromise here.
I think that the process described here best comes under intercellular transport rather than an assembly BP. There is some intersection with extracellular vesicle/exosomes-mediated processes. Marked this down as something to explore in the future as this field is more defined now - but will have to find an expert or experts.
I like the suggestion of placing it under a generic capsid parent:
but also agree that "viral capsid" should be part_of "viral nucleocapsid".
The viral nucleocapsid is the capsid + nucleic acid + other proteins that may complex with the nucleic acid inside or other things needed to kick off immediately upon infection.
Looking at the experimental annotations to "viral nucleocapsid" they have mainly been used for nucleic acid interacting proteins rather than capsid compoments. Perhaps we could review these and make viral nucleocapsid the term "on top"
For consistency we may want to have "nucleocapsid" as the parent across, but then we would also want to have terms that represented the capsid as part of the structure as well.
This would look like: nucleocapsid |viral nucleocapsid (p)viral capsid |retrotransposon nucleocapsid (p)retrotransposon capsid (NEW) |virus-like nucleocapsid (p)retrotransposon capsid (NEW) (p)capsid (NEW) |__viral capsid |retrotransposon capsid |___virus-like capsid
May be over-kill for the handful of virus-like/retrotransposon proteins, but for viruses, would be worth the effort. Think that is a question I would punt back to GO! @cmungall
cmungall
commented
10 months ago We're a bit outside the scope of the original (closed) issue so I made a new one: #26910
Suggested term label:
virus-like capsid
Definition (free text):
A protein coat that surrounds nucleic acid to form a structure similar to a virus capsid. Virus-like capsids are non-infectious and are encoded by endogenous (non-viral) genes. Fly and tetrapod Arc (ancestrally-related to retrotransposon Gag) are examples of proteins that can self-assemble into capsid-like structures which encapsulate Arc mRNA and mediate the intercellular transmission of RNA.
Reference"
PMID:29328916
Gene product name and ID to be annotated to this term:
Arc1, FBgn0033926
Parent term(s):
Not sure where this should sit: GO:0032991 protein-containing complex? as these are incorporarted in to extracellular vesicles, could be "part of" GO:1903561
Synonyms (please specify, EXACT, BROAD, NARROW or RELATED)
virus-like particle (NARROW)
Any other information
I've suggested virus-like capsid as the term rather than virus-like particle, as this term can also be used for bacteriophages and is used to describe pharma-type delivery systems.