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regulation of translation, snRNA-mediated - rename terms #4745

Closed gocentral closed 9 years ago

gocentral commented 16 years ago

Affected terms are:

positive regulation of translation, snRNA-mediated regulation of translation, snRNA-mediated negative regulation of translation, snRNA-mediated

I think we should rename to sncRNA or something other than snRNA, which refers to small nuclear RNAs.

Tanya


Based on Ingrid's email:

Hi,

I was just looking over some of my own annotations and was initially disturbed to find an annotation of a small regulatory RNA to GO:0040033, negative regulation of translation, snRNA-mediated. I then read the definition and realized (as I must have when I first annotated the RNA) that snRNA means "small non-coding RNA" here. I think the name of this term could be improved; as far as I know, "snRNA" is most commonly used as an abbreviation for "small nuclear RNA", which is how it is used in many other GO terms. It is confusing to have it used in a different way here; at least I don't think that "small nuclear RNA" is synonymous with "small non-coding RNA". What do you think?

Thanks, Ingrid


Suzi:

I agree. snRNA is small nuclear RNA to most folks

non-coding RNAs are (I think) usually ncRNA, so perhaps sncRNA might work?

-S


I agree with Suzi, snRNA, is small nuclear RNA -

Michael


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Original Ticket: "geneontology/ontology-requests/4760":https://sourceforge.net/p/geneontology/ontology-requests/4760

gocentral commented 16 years ago

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From Mike: SO says, this perhaps is the root of the problem. Change the beginning to "Small nuclear RNA ...".

[Term] id: SO:0000274 name: snRNA def: "Small non-coding RNA in the nucleoplasm. A small nuclear RNA molecule involved in pre-mRNA splicing and processing." [ems:WB, http://www.ebi.ac.uk/embl/Documentation/FT\_definitions/feature\_table.html , PMID:11733745] comment: This term is mapped to MGED. Do not obsolete without consulting MGED ontology. subset: SOFA synonym: "small nuclear RNA" EXACT [] is_a: SO:0000655 ! ncRNA relationship: derives_from SO:0000231 ! snRNA_primary_transcript

Can also find "Small nuclear mRNA", that should be RNA not mRNA.

[Term] id: SO:0000231 name: snRNA_primary_transcript def: "A primary transcript encoding a small nuclear mRNA (SO: 0000274)." [SO:ke] is_a: SO:0000483 ! nc_primary_transcript

-Mike

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gocentral commented 16 years ago

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Hi,

Unless the term 'sncRNA' is standard in the literature, let's not introduce it. I think 'ncRNA' is pretty standard, so we could either just use that, or if we want the small part, then let's use 'small ncRNA'.

-Karen

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gocentral commented 16 years ago

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I like that idea, Karen. Thanks!

Tanya

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gocentral commented 16 years ago

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gocentral commented 16 years ago

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Yes, make this at least ncRNA, or snc, but anything other than snRNA

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gocentral commented 16 years ago

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ncRNA sounds good to me; might as well drop the "small" if it is not going to be defined - how small is small, anyway?

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gocentral commented 16 years ago

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sounds like we're converging on:

positive regulation of translation, ncRNA-mediated regulation of translation, ncRNA-mediated negative regulation of translation, ncRNA-mediated

We can have synonyms that have the small ncRNA bit in them.

How does that sound?

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gocentral commented 16 years ago

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Hi,

term names sound fine.

not sure it's really even necessary to create the "small ncRNA" synonyms. If you search Pubmed for "ncRNA" you get 151 hits. If you search for the quoted string "small ncRNA", it tells you that the quoted string is not found. It does produce 45 hits which appear to contain both the word 'small' and the word 'ncRNA' non-adjacently. Since it doesn't look like adding the synonyms will add any value, I might just not add them. Not stridently opposed to them either, but in case my earlier email was taken as suggesting that we should have that phrasing too, I just wanted to say that they don't really look particularly useful.

-Karen

Original comment by: krchristie

gocentral commented 16 years ago

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I've made the edits: changed snRNA to ncRNA in all cases.

revision 5.666

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gocentral commented 16 years ago

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