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NTR: Reg of serine phosphorylation of STAT3 #5814

Closed gocentral closed 9 years ago

gocentral commented 15 years ago

Hi,

In process at the moment, we have:

GO:0042501 : serine phosphorylation of STAT protein --<GO:0033139 : regulation of peptidyl-serine phosphorylation of STAT protein --%GO:0033136 : serine phosphorylation of STAT3 protein

could I have a new term as a child of each of GO:0033139 and GO:0033136 please:

GO:NEW regulation of peptidyl-serine phosphorylation of STAT3 protein. Any process that modulates the frequency, rate or extent of the phosphorylation of a serine residue of the STAT 3(Signal Transducer and Activator of Transcription 3) protein.

Thanks, Becky

needed for curation of xTAK1 (O73613) in PMID:15004007. NLK directly phosphorylates the C-terminal serine residue in STAT3, and xTAK1 acts upstream of NLK. I could use GO:0033136, but think a new term would be more accurate.

Reported by: rebeccafoulger

Original Ticket: "geneontology/ontology-requests/5832":https://sourceforge.net/p/geneontology/ontology-requests/5832

gocentral commented 15 years ago

I dont understand why functions cannot represent specific gene products, while processes can? That seems inconsistent.

Pascale

Original comment by: pgaudet

gocentral commented 15 years ago

Classes of gene products, which are sometimes referred to by the names of specific well-characterized examples, can be included as substrates of processes. Neither the process nor the function ontology should include terms that describe a gene product.

Original comment by: mah11

gocentral commented 15 years ago

Original comment by: mah11

gocentral commented 15 years ago

Do we really want to continue making such GO terms that refer to specific gene products? I'm thinking that it might be much more appropriate to annotate to GO:0033139 and then put STAT3 in column 16 (http://wiki.geneontology.org/index.php/Annotation\_Cross\_Products).

Original comment by: tberardini

gocentral commented 15 years ago

Switching over to using column 16 for these sorts of things would be fine with me; I was just explaining what our thinking and practice have been to date.

Do we want to grandfather in existing gp-specific terms, or merge them all with parents?

m

Original comment by: mah11

gocentral commented 15 years ago

I think we should merge them all with parents but am not sure of the right time to do that yet. Perhaps when all the relevant dbs (those that have existing annotations at the very least) have the ability to capture col 16 information somewhere in their database.

Original comment by: tberardini

gocentral commented 15 years ago

sounds good to me

We need a clever way to find the terms we'd want to merge ... any ideas?

Original comment by: mah11

gocentral commented 15 years ago

Hi Becky,

Are you ok with the suggestion to just annotate to GO:0033139 and then put STAT3 in column 16? If so, then we can close this request and open another one with the more broad subject of 'identifying gp specific process terms for merging' or something like that.

(Or do you just want to use this one, Midori?)

Tanya

Original comment by: tberardini

gocentral commented 15 years ago

I don't have a super-strong preference about SF items ... I guess a new item would be a bit easier to find.

m

Original comment by: mah11

gocentral commented 15 years ago

Hi Tanya and Midori,

I'm happy to annotate to GO:0033139, and I've put a note in our tool to add STAT3 to column 16 when it becomes available!

Thanks for looking at this. Looks like there's a lot of term merging that's going to be done!

cheers Becky

Original comment by: rebeccafoulger

gocentral commented 15 years ago

Thanks, Becky.

For finding the ones to merge, here's one strategy:

find all terms whose name ends in the word "protein" and are not obsolete

with this, I get 58 matches, many of which are specifically for particular STAT proteins.

Original comment by: tberardini

gocentral commented 15 years ago

oh, very clever!

Original comment by: mah11

gocentral commented 13 years ago

This request has been brought up again by Varsha in a new SF item. Please add any updates/comments in the new SF item:

https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?func=detail&aid=3174857&group\_id=36855&atid=440764

Original comment by: rebeccafoulger

gocentral commented 13 years ago

Original comment by: rebeccafoulger