💡 Software ideas to make Little Printer print again

[mungle]

Finally I get my LP working again...!!! As I love it, I was wondering if it will be a way to make an "Open sirius" website like http://alpha.littleprinter.com where developers like us could add open source apps in a easy way improving the features of the site (actually limited to send only messages)! 🎉 To much? 😃

[benpawle]

Hi Mungle. I've been thinking about something similar via IFTTT.

My idea is that you could save am IFTTT phone number in your contacts as 'Little Printer' and send an SMS which would be sent via webhook to a server which would take the sms text and style as HTML and rendered into an image (via PIL or similar) that LP could print - like in the nice Poster script style. Even better if it could encompass images! The bridge already renders HTML I think but I'm no developer so haven't explored this fully...

The nice thing about this approach is you wouldn't need an internet connection to be able to send messages to your LP; I always thought Berg's method of having to load a webpage in a browser in order to configure a message was kind of clunky.

I'd be interested to see what you or other LP users/developers think of this.

[mungle]

That's an awesome input I think... But I'm not interest to send messages only... I'm more interest in other features like instagram photos from hashtag, tweets and news of the days... Dynamic content...! I think the way IFTTT works is great but I don't know from where to start developing something!

Anyway, all the dynamic content should be packed in a simple html and sent as a message to the printer... We just need to automate this process...

[pixelwiese]

I think you would like to rebuild the original Littleprinter website. When we knew that littleprinter is shutting down, there were a lot of people who said they would like to give some money (monthly or annualy) for the littleprinter service. It's nonsense to rebuild an existing Application (in my opionion). Maybe genmon would accept this idea.

[johndietrich]

I have no knowledge to back this up, but it always sounded like there might be some intellectual-property issues around the original back-end code that have made it impossible for genmon to make that available to anyone. (I'm making this up, but here's a hypothetical scenario -- you create a company, hire some developers to build code, end up liquidating the company and can't afford to pay off their full contract, so who owns the code? Or the codebase is one of the assets of the company and gets sold off to someone else, etc. Not at all saying that's the situation here -- but there are many ways that the code could no longer belong to genmon after shutting down BERG.)

That said, we are getting close to having a lot of cool things available to us again -- someone has posted a way to dither and print images, another person has a template for better-looking messages, someone else had an idea for IFTTT integration, and so on.

If we had someone with the right level of programming expertise, it wouldn't be too terribly hard to put together something fairly functional that could even recreate some of the original capabilities, like being able to select a weather forecast or a horoscope or stock quotes from XML feeds on the web and render those in a scheduled (cron, anyone?) process that runs every day (hour, half-day, whatever you choose).

[mungle]

I was wondering the same about code copyright...

Anyway, there are a lot of people that love LP and it's a shame to let id die...

Anyway, unlikely I'm not an expert programmer, but I hope someone very cool will hear our voice and help us give a new life to the lovely LP.

I hope @awfk2long could give us an hint sharing his code that print a sudoku everyday... And if I could understand it, I hope to be able to share something interesting...

Actually we already understand that LP can print without problem an HTML also with images... We just need a code that can grab informations, format them in html (I can help for this) and send to our printer... @genmon , do you have any useful example to start with?

[mungle]

Hei @awfk2long! Do you have time to post your code to crawl some sudoku and print it everyday? I need to build a project but I need an hint to start with and your code could help me a lot I think! Thank you! 😄

[awfk2long]

Hi @mungle , sorry for the delay, but I was travelling. Here is the code: https://github.com/littleprinter/puzzle_str8t it is not perfect, but was running perfectly before the server went down. I copied an old example (and did not care too much about documentation, sorry!) I had it running in my dropbox and the little printer server pointed directly there. Curious if you get it working. I still have not got my printer running again :(

[mungle]

Thank you @awfk2long ! Actually your link pointed to a empty rep... Anyway, I tried to visit php or python version linked in the readme file but I'm not sure the code will run with sirius... I will try on these days and in the meantime @genmon could maybe know more about compatibility and better address us! 😜

[awfk2long]

sorry, @mungle , i think there went something wrong with the upload. please try again & let me know.

[mungle]

I've uploaded PHP version on my server but I can't find any way to address the script to my printer. The examples has been made for the old Berg Cloud "Appstore" not for this sirius version... My LP is getting dust... @genmon could you light us up?

At the moment I would love to find a way to print latest instagram pictures based on hashtag!

[awfk2long]

U are looking for a sirus version. Now it makes sense... ;) have not seen one, but would love to get my old sudoku running again :(

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I've uploaded PHP version on my server but I can't find any way to address the script to my printer. The examples has been made for the old Berg Cloud "Appstore" not for this sirius version... My LP is getting dust... @genmon could you light us up?

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[pixelwiese]

Is anything happening here or is the Littleprinter now dead forever? 😢

[mungle]

I suppose it’s dead but I hope it’s not...

[dspalton]

Anything happening?

[nickehsmith]

Would love to resurrect my little buddy.

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Anything happening?

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[dspalton]

Yep the same here.

[nickehsmith]

Even if it can be woken up just to be a thermal printer at this point would be amazing

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[dspalton]

My bridge doesn’t seam to be booking up to the Ethernet :(

[johndietrich]

Well, there are instructions here to reflash the bridge software and set up your own server, so it's not difficult. Just requires a bit of effort and equipment (an Arduino and a laptop). You can run the server on a Raspberry Pi.

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Even if it can be woken up just to be a thermal printer at this point would be amazing

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[dspalton]

Full disclosure, I’ve not looked into this for two years or so. Trying to catch up now as have a practical use to try get it working. Got a spare Pi so that would be cool. Anyone have the full guide some where to install?

Appreciate the help

[johndietrich]

First you'll need to root the bridge:

http://pipt.github.io/2013/04/15/rooting-berg-cloud-bridge.html

Then you'll need to flash the new firmware:

http://joerick.me/posts/2017/03/09/little-printer/

Then set up a Sirius server on an RPi:

https://github.com/beyondio/LittlePrinterPi/wiki

....and then point the Bridge to the IP address of your RPi server:

https://github.com/genmon/sirius/wiki/Updating-the-Bridge

Good luck!

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Full disclosure, I’ve not looked into this for two years or so. Trying to catch up now as have a practical use to try get it working. Got a spare Pi so that would be cool. Anyone have the full guide some where to install?

Appreciate the help

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[benpawle]

Hi all,

Glad you're as keen as us to get your printers working. We're actually working on a platform for this as a side project in our studio. It's based on the Sirius backend by @genmon but with a few extra features. There will be an accompanying iOS app so you can message your printers with styled templates, as well as IFTTT integrations for other types of content you're into.

We're up and running with the few printers we have but we need to finish some last bits before we release. If you're interested in trying it out let us know! You'll still need to do Joe's firmware flash but everything else will be taken care of by our new platform.

Cheers,

Ben

[johndietrich]

I'm in!

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Hi all,

Glad you're as keen as us to get your printers working. We're actually working on a platform for this as a side project in our studiohttps://eur03.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fnordprojects.co%2F&data=02%7C01%7C%7C21d017a911ca4c6518ae08d59961129e%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C636583564554067960&sdata=bop7q7Mtw0m51f9Sj4kVqVsIf5uII4XsbqRoW1iD2OU%3D&reserved=0. It's based on the Sirius backend by @genmonhttps://eur03.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fgithub.com%2Fgenmon&data=02%7C01%7C%7C21d017a911ca4c6518ae08d59961129e%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C636583564554067960&sdata=RT73aYjpxlGFj2G%2Fe3ybh6pZ7o%2BA647pwwmJLpn65tQ%3D&reserved=0 but with a few extra features. There will be an accompanying iOS app so you can message your printers with styled templates, as well as IFTTT integrations for other types of content you're into.

We're up and running with the few printers we have but we need to finish some last bits before we release. If you're interested in trying it out let us know! You'll still need to do Joe's firmware flash but everything else will be taken care of by our new platform.

Cheers,

Ben

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[nickehsmith]

Sounds amazing, also… would be more than happy to ship and pay for the bridge to be flashed if anyone in the UK has the time/skillset to do it.

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I'm in!

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Glad you're as keen as us to get your printers working. We're actually working on a platform for this as a side project in our studio< https://eur03.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F% 2Fnordprojects.co%2F&data=02%7C01%7C%7C21d017a911ca4c6518ae08d59961129e% 7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C636583564554067960&sdata= bop7q7Mtw0m51f9Sj4kVqVsIf5uII4XsbqRoW1iD2OU%3D&reserved=0>. It's based on the Sirius backend by @genmonhttps://eur03.safelinks.protection.outlook. com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fgithub.com%2Fgenmon&data=02%7C01%7C% 7C21d017a911ca4c6518ae08d59961129e%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaa aaaa%7C1%7C0%7C636583564554067960&sdata=RT73aYjpxlGFj2G%2Fe3ybh6pZ7o% 2BA647pwwmJLpn65tQ%3D&reserved=0 but with a few extra features. There will be an accompanying iOS app so you can message your printers with styled templates, as well as IFTTT integrations for other types of content you're into.

We're up and running with the few printers we have but we need to finish some last bits before we release. If you're interested in trying it out let us know! You'll still need to do Joe's firmware flash but everything else will be taken care of by our new platform.

Cheers,

Ben

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[dspalton]

im in as well. Not sure i can flash my bridge myself, bit lacking the skills to be honest' but based in the UK

Reason i want to get it going, basically going to be working away from home for 21days a month, so want it to send messages to the wife soppy bugger that i am

If you need any other testers or anything more than happy to help

[bentimms]

Hi Ben,

Colour me interested!

Thanks, Ben

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Hi all,

Glad you're as keen as us to get your printers working. We're actually working on a platform for this as a side project in our studio http://nordprojects.co/. It's based on the Sirius backend by @genmon https://github.com/genmon but with a few extra features. There will be an accompanying iOS app so you can message your printers with styled templates, as well as IFTTT integrations for other types of content you're into.

We're up and running with the few printers we have but we need to finish some last bits before we release. If you're interested in trying it out let us know! You'll still need to do Joe's firmware flash but everything else will be taken care of by our new platform.

Cheers,

Ben

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[tom-hat]

Hi guys, Tom here I work with @benpawle and @joerick - we've just been speaking about flashing peoples bridges as a service and we reckon it's definitely something we could do. As Ben mentioned earlier we've got an iOS app which is almost ready to roll out. The dev version we are playing around with works a treat. There's a bit of tidying up to do and we're fairly busy with projects at the moment so might not be ready to do this for a few months.

But yes without putting any firm dates down just yet would anyone be interested in paying £55 exc return postage to get your little printers up and running? We would do them in batches, most probably at the end of May / June. We're based in Hackney Wick, London and would be happy to do drop ins if anyone's local..

[dspalton]

Looking amazing Definitely interested

[oschrenk]

Good stuff!

I would also be interested in testing/using this.

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Looking amazing Definitely interested

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[nickehsmith]

Tom et al. That sounds amazing, I'd pay £55 just to stop the pang of guilt I have every time I open the drawer of dead IOT purchases. Also more than willing to send it in the post now to be flashed when you have time as there's no point it just sitting here.

Forgive me being completely ignorant but once flashed will it essentially be manageable by your app and also usable with an independently hosted Sirius server. Just the caution of someone who wants to make sure if you guys move on I'll be able to still make the most of the investment.

If you don't mind can I share with a couple of people off this list as they'll be super interested :)

On 3 April 2018 at 16:52, Oliver Schrenk notifications@github.com wrote:

Good stuff!

I would also be interested in testing/using this.

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[cyndyphillips]

Also very interested @tom-hat . I make him origami hats, it's so sad. He needs purpose.

[stevekennedyuk]

I could pp down to Hackney Wick (quite often go to Here East or drinking at Crate/etc)

[cubeghost]

I'm interested in trying, although I think I'll flash mine myself. Will the backend be open source? I'd love to build a web interface for it since I'm on Android.

[Dayvehillman]

Hi guys, I live round the corner in Bow and would pay £55 happily to get LP running again! I work away an awful lot with work and my wife used to absolutely love her LP. It was such a nice way to stay in touch!

[benpawle]

No worries! We'll keep you all posted. @cubeghost nice idea! Happy to share some UI files once we're ready.

[vincent-bidaux]

@benpawle @tom-hat those are great news!

As @Dayvehillman, I'm willing to sponsor too.

[johnfkent]

I've always wanted to get my LP printing again, but lack the experience (and equipment) for rooting the bridge. I'd also happily pay the £55 and p&p too. Count me in!

[PieterDiepenmaat]

@tom-hat I am very much interested in getting my little friend up and running again with your service. At the same time I share @nickehsmith's concern.

[raphaelmartin]

@tom-hat any news?

[harrilewis]

@tom-hat another interested person here!

Also nearby.

[karlparton]

@tom-hat Ditto!

[cyndyphillips]

@tom-hat same here. I was working with a app development company just for my own use but I'll sponsor development over here :)

[tom-hat]

Hello guys!

Sorry all for the leave of absence! In the past few months @joerick and @michaelcolville have been perfecting the dithering and its now possible to send images using their new app. Which is pretty ace. Its been running flawlessly in the studio over the summer and they expect to roll it out on the App Store very soon. Or they mentioned something about sharing via TestFlight in the meantime. The app works via their custom server (nord-sirius) which is hosted at http://littleprinter.nordprojects.co.

We’ve compiled a technical a user guide of how to do this manually, but it requires some know how, with the risk of bricking it. For anyone thats still keen for me do it for you, for £55 (exc return postage), I’ll set aside a day on Friday November 5th to flash your bridges, and then hopefully another day on the 19th. Drops offs are very welcome at the studio, - with notice! We are based in Hackney Wick, E9 5EN. There are plenty of places to hang out while I do the necessary. eg. Crate Brewery, Howling Hops or Pearl Coffee Shop.

Please email me at: tom_hatton@outlook(dot)com to arrange or for further info!

[cyndyphillips]

(fist pumping into the air) BEST NEWS ALL MONTH!! Thank you so much- I know what I'm doing this weekend!

[nickehsmith]

Amazing. Thanks for all the hard work! Not all littleprinter heroes wear capes! On 14 Sep 2018, 15:49 +0100, cyndyphillips notifications@github.com, wrote:

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[tom-hat]

Thanks @nickehsmith ! One for the wall! 😉

[oschrenk]

Thanks for the hard work. http://littleprinter.nordprojects.co/ brought my printer back to life!

[ptitb]

Thank you guys! My little printer is alive again!

[mguth]

Hi everyone!

I am super excited about what you did, @tom-hat, but sadly my bridge seems to have died since I last (successfully) used it a couple of years ago.

Long story short:

Does anyone still happen to have a spare bridge lying around they would be willing to sell? 🤓

I'd really love to bring my printer back to life.

[tomdcpennington]

This is great! I don't have an iOS device though. I see in the instructions the app is Part 8, is it crucial to getting the little guy printing? Thanks