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👚 Speedy Word Embedding Association Test & Extras using R
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Paper: questions on Query section #13

Closed cmaimone closed 2 years ago

cmaimone commented 2 years ago

For this:

sweater uses the concept of query [@badilla2020wefe] to study the biases in $w$. A query contains two or more sets of seed words with at least one set of target words and one set of attribute words. sweater uses the $\mathcal{S}\mathcal{T}\mathcal{A}\mathcal{B}$ notation from @brunet2019understanding to form a query.

I would also find a little more info on target and attribute sets helpful. When you're supposed to supply two different sets, what is each supposed to be? What should be in S and what in T? I appreciate the references, and realize this may be complicated. Some type of brief summary here would help though. For example, for A and B, it seems each should be a set of words relevant to a group? Or the endpoints of a scale?

When you say target words shouldn't have bias, does that mean they are the words you're testing for bias?

cmaimone commented 2 years ago

This is re: https://github.com/openjournals/joss-reviews/issues/4036

chainsawriot commented 2 years ago

@cmaimone Thanks for the comments. I've rectified most of your points by explaining the seed words, why some words can be used as target words, etc in the paper branch.

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Regarding the STAB notation, I believe @brunet2019understanding select the four characters out of convenience (similar to the choices by Calikskan et al., XYAB; or V_m, V_1, and V_2 by Garg et al.) and there's no explanation on why those four characters were chosen.

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The section in @brunet2019understanding about the notion

I can use some more descriptive names (such as target_words_1, target_words_2, attribute_words_1, attribute_words_2). But again, it breaks legacy code. And I think the documentation, the README, and now the paper have done a decent job in explaining what those 4 word sets are.

cmaimone commented 2 years ago

I wasn't suggesting renaming them - just maybe making it clearer what each is, since they are abstract letters. I figured it out eventually, but I got lost on my first read through the paper/example code.

For someone who hasn't read the original papers (I have intentionally not done so at this point since I think others will come to your package without having done so), the query section was hard to work through. It was clearer once I had an example. Maybe a brief example before the usage section would help -- not necessarily in code. It would help to know what we're doing before knowing the functions/code to do it. Then you could map the STAB letters back to the example.

This would, I think, also help people who have read some of these original papers, yes? Because the STAB notation is not consistent across them?