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Distinguish between "workview" filtering and "actionable" tasks #14

Open nekohayo opened 10 years ago

nekohayo commented 10 years ago

Initially filed at https://bugs.launchpad.net/gtg/+bug/1305354

I've been loving GTG for my GTD needs since 2009 or so, but with the blurry distinction between my daily life and my work life, I think I've finally figured out what I'm missing: the "Workview" mode is nice, but it needs something else to complement it.

Currently, workview filters out all the tasks that are deferred into the future or all the tasks for which a tag is marked as "not to be shown in work view".

This leads to the problem where I have either too much (300) or too few (50) tasks depending on if I turned on workview.

I would like:

Both can be used in conjunction (actually, turning on "Workview" could even automatically activate the "Actionable tasks only" button) when I'm in a professional work setting, but when I'm at home I could turn off workview and be able to see "all the tasks that are actionable but not necessarily related to work".

This is not something I can distinguish just by using one @work tag: the problem is that I have tasks that are "R&D" or "experiments" in my life that are more like "side projects", and currently the problem is that I'm "always" in the workview because the non-workview is a complete mess with way too many tasks (half of which are in the future, and thus non-actionable).

Thanks!

nekohayo commented 4 years ago

Another potential approach to this would be for workview and actionable to be two independent view "filters" that the user can toggle in the UI on the fly, instead of view "modes". But one has to be careful not to bury the reachability of those toggles too far, nor to clutter the UI, so it might be a tricky thing to achieve.

nekohayo commented 4 years ago

...and it should probably be revisited once we have solved the performance problems after a switch to lxml and such, because if switching between view modes is much faster in 0.5 than in 0.3.x, then this might make the "in-between all-tasks and workview" state less important to have.

diegogangl commented 3 years ago

Two things bother me about the actionable tab:

  1. It shows all tasks that aren't due in the future. Since I do daily/weekly planning, that means 99% of my tasks in open will also be in actionable unless I set them all to "someday"
  2. You are forced to set some due date to get tasks to show at the top. Otherwise they are lost in the sea of tasks, since you can't sort by start date.

It feels like it should act as "focus" filter so you only see what you are set to do next, but it ends up being a mess because the algo has so many conditions that you never know when/if a task will show up there.

Once the core rewrite is done we could move the tabs to the sidebar and open the possibility for plugins to create their own views too.

digitalethics commented 3 years ago

@diegogangl See also #429

nekohayo commented 3 years ago

Possibly the "Actionable" view (or "Workview" as it was previously called) tab approach is a mistake of oversimplification, and we should instead offer a filtering bar with independent toggles the user could use. So you'd only have the distinction between Open/Closed, and then, in some sub-toolbar somewhere (maybe toggleable with a "Filters" button in the headerbar?), have GtkSwitch widgets (?) controlling these:

This might significantly complicate the UI visually. I wonder if this would be considered plugin material at that point...

nekohayo commented 3 years ago

Or, perhaps it's really just a matter of having one or two more global view modes, so in total, we could have:

Label Tooltip Shows parent tasks? (hierarchy) Shows deferred (future startdate)? Shows "someday" tasks? Shows tasks tagged with a "hide from workview" tag?
Open All open tasks
Review* "10,000 ft" view
Projects "Current projects" workview ❌ (or only those starting within 7 days?)
Next actions Actionable tasks only
Closed All completed or dismissed tasks

The tricky thing is that in theory, one might consider that "actionable" and "workview" really are independent, not-mutually-exclusive things, that my table above doesn't truly allow, still. So here's another crazy idea: what if workview was really something purely about tags, and was controlled from the tags sidebar, so that in the sidebar you'd have a set of switcher buttons between "All tags" and "Workview", which would independently affect which tags get shown (and thus which tasks get shown, too) in conjunction with the global view modes which would become:

Label Tooltip Shows parent tasks? (hierarchy) Shows deferred (future startdate)? Shows "someday" tasks?
Open All open tasks
Review* "10,000 ft" view
Projects Current projects ❌ (or only those starting within 7 days?)
Next actions Actionable tasks only
Closed All completed or dismissed tasks

*: in both cases, the trickiest view mode to define—if it's pertinent to have it at all—is the "Review" mode... because possibly everyone has a different definition of what they would like to review. However: