Nathaniel Howe: The generated savegame will ignore the given inputs.

[manavortex]

Hey, my friend got in touch on twitter, but github wouldn't let her register. She has been the one to do the testing (and she was incredibly thorough), I handled the code side of things. :)

Input: Recruited Nathaniel checked NATHANIEL_FRIENDLY_ELIGIBLE checked Nathaniel died in the siege unchecked

Expected behaviour: The quest Finding Nathaniel is available in Act3 of DA2 Observed behaviour: The quest Fool's Gold is available in Act3 of DA2

I tried to change this from 22 to 12 (after the workaround here), but the generated savegame still triggered Fool's Gold.

toggling "died in the siege" instead of "NATHANIEL_FRIENDLY_ELIGIBLE" also didn't fix it, I had hoped for a gui label mixup

[gibbed]

The flags here do appear to be what appear in the worldvault, which is how Dragon Age 2 handles imports:

42,dao,0,cod_cha_nathaniel,struct,,$PLOTS[$PLOT_GUIDS:"F29B4323C13049BABE1D2E3007C6AD1D"]
57,dao,0,gxa000pt_party,struct,,$PLOTS[$PLOT_GUIDS:"E3F7CA9BE9C543378764CD4D5AFC00A3"]
58,dao,0,gxa000pt_app_nathaniel,struct,,$PLOTS[$PLOT_GUIDS:"5DABBE1A8F3A440592A9F3078D3ABE16"]
140,dao,2065,GXA_NATHANIEL_RECRUITED,bool,0,$gxa000pt_party#9
159,dao,2084,COD_CHA_NATHANIEL_DIED_IN_VGK_SIEGE,bool,0,$cod_cha_nathaniel#12
160,dao,2085,GXA_APP_NATHANIEL_FRIENDLY_ELIGIBLE,bool,0,$gxa000pt_app_nathaniel#22

Would you happen to know if a real save from Dragon Age with Nathaniel still alive imports correctly for this?

[gibbed]

Additonally, I'm going to redownload DA2 and see if they ended up patching the worldvault at some point. Maybe this is a bug they fixed and my save generator simply was never updated to compensate.

[gibbed]

It doesn't look like they ever patched the worldvault file, so I'm guessing there's more requirements for that quest to appear or it's bugged.

This mod on NexusMods ("Import Vault Fixes") appears to suggest that the Finding Nathaniel quest line is bugged in general.

[manavortex]

Hey gibbed, thank you for looking at this - there's a console command that you run in Origins to fix the generated savegame for DA2, and according to the person who tested all this, that's working: https://dragonage.fandom.com/wiki/Finding_Nathaniel#Bugs

Does that help anything?

[gibbed]

What that command should be doing is unsetting this flag:

https://github.com/gibbed/Gibbed.DragonAge.SaveGenerator/blob/aab299ed9ceae0424283b64d12f26105d9ba1d63/projects/Gibbed.DragonAge.SaveGenerator/MainWindow.xaml.cs#L959-L962

[manavortex]

My attempt at "fixing" this was to try and directly add in whatever the command did to the savegame editor, but that didn't work.

[gibbed]

Yeah, what I mean is that command in the link you've referenced, would unset the plot flag that is set by that code I linked in my previous comment.

That plot flag shouldn't be getting set by the save generator when it's unchecked, at least.

[gibbed]

What I would ask going forward is, can you provide me a copy of the save that's generated that's broken, then a copy of the save that's been modified by that command?

You can attach them to this issue (probably need to ZIP them first though).

[VicFromTheFade]

Would you happen to know if a real save from Dragon Age with Nathaniel still alive imports correctly for this?

Yes a real save imports correctly.

[gibbed]

Wondering now if this is possibly a bug due to default values being provided by the game on import when plot flags are entirely unset.

[VicFromTheFade]

One is the normal save, the other is generated. Nathaniel was marked as alive in both occasions. Hopefully it will help shed some light.

Duran.zip Generated_Duran.zip

[gibbed]

Is that generated save one that was modified by the console command, or unmodified from the save generator?

[VicFromTheFade]

Unmodified. I generated it and immediately uploaded it here.

[VicFromTheFade]

Hey, do you have any other questions, I might be able to help you with?