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'master' is male #1076

Open jmccrae opened 1 week ago

jmccrae commented 1 week ago

Existing relation oewn-10318314-n (Interlingual Index: i91249) (n) master directs the work of others

oewn-10306910-n (Interlingual Index: i91182) (n) man, adult male an adult person who is male (as opposed to a woman) “there were two women and six men on the bus”

Proposed change Remove hypernym link

Motivation I don't think 'master' is gendered and the hyponyms are probably also wrong such as 'postmistress' which is both a 'man' and a 'woman'

fcbond commented 1 week ago

Hi,

I think master is definitely gendered, at least in some of its uses, and contrasts with 'mistress'.

We also have e.g., have both postmaster and postmistress.

I think it is one of the places where master started of gendered and has now become less-so. I am not sure if we want to model it as 'master' being completely genderless though. Or maybe have it non-gendered, with a link to mistress, and add something like 'traditionally male' in the definition?

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Existing relation oewn-10318314-n (Interlingual Index: i91249) (n) master https://en-word.net/lemma/master directs the work of others

oewn-10306910-n (Interlingual Index: i91182) (n) man https://en-word.net/lemma/man, adult male https://en-word.net/lemma/adult%20male an adult person who is male (as opposed to a woman) “there were two women and six men on the bus”

Proposed change Remove hypernym link

Motivation I don't think 'master' is gendered and the hyponyms are probably also wrong such as 'postmistress' which is both a 'man' and a 'woman'

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jmccrae commented 1 week ago

Okay, this particular sense should not be gendered though given its definition.

Most other senses of 'master' are not hyponyms of 'man', the exception being the 'schoolmaster' sense which is specifically male.

For 'postmaster', I feel it is more like 'actor' in that it has become a general term, with a gender-specific term.

I am not sure adding 'traditionally male' to the definition as it is really about the lemma (although in this case the synset only has one lemma).