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ewn-08503199-n "wine tasting" #524

Closed rwingerter55 closed 3 years ago

rwingerter55 commented 4 years ago

This issue is a continuation of #522.

Current state

"Wine tasting" in EWN is not seen as an activity or an event, but as a group of persons:

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Proposal

IMO EWN should have a separate sense for the act of wine tasting as a hyponym of ewn-00843562-n "degustation, relishing, savoring, savouring, tasting". Definition wanted!

Cf. the position of ewn-00843562-n in the concept hierarchy:

ID Lemmas Subject Definition
ewn-00839759-n consumption, ingestion, intake, uptake noun.act the process of taking food into the body through the mouth (as by eating)
ewn-00840028-n eating, feeding noun.act the act of consuming food
ewn-00843562-n degustation, relishing, savoring, savouring, tasting noun.act taking a small amount into the mouth to test its quality

Definitions

Most dictionary definitions I found stress the event aspect:

Source Sense Definition
https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/wine%20tasting 1 an event where people can taste and compare very small samples of wine
https://www.collinsdictionary.com/dictionary/english/wine-tasting 1 an occasion for sampling a number of wines
https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/winetasting 1 (uncountable) The sensory examination and evaluation of wine.
https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/winetasting 2 (countable) An event for the purpose of tasting and evaluating wine.

Example sentences

On OED, which does not have an entry for wine tasting, I found these sample sentences, taken from Wikipedia and a Parliament archive. In most of them, wine tasting is an activity.

no OED > Dictionary > Examples of wine tasting
1 In wine tasting, acidity is perceived by a mouth watering response by the salivary glands.
2 Their facilities consist of kitchens, theaters, event space and a wine tasting room, which hosts an intensive sommelier training course.
3 The facilities include industrial kitchens for hands-on cooking and baking classes, specialized wine tasting classrooms, libraries, theaters, and event spaces.
4 The film concludes with a large group conducting a blind wine tasting.
5 I hope that there was no under-age drinking on the premises when all the wine tasting took place.
6 The problem, which is endemic, is the law relating to wine tasting or sampling, and the amendment specifically deals with that.
7 That means that they cannot have any wine tasting on their on-licence before 12 o'clock midday and must stop their wine tasting immediately at 2 pm.
8 She is very knowledgeable in all matters related to wine and has shown some talents in wine tasting.
9 Believing that she wasn't good enough for him, she accused him of having an affair with a wine tasting woman.
10 These flavours are evaluated using a procedure similar to wine tasting.
11 Wine tasting is a highlight of the area and the history of wine in this region is a rich one.
12 Its programme included workshops for children and adults as well as wine tasting.
13 A connoiseur of coffee and wine, he has a regular wine tasting column for an internet wine magazine.
14 In wine tasting, wine is often smelled before being drunk in order to identify some components of the wine that may be present.
15 In-store wine tasting was also legalized, as were certain off-site special events hosted by wineries.
16 Events include dinner parties, evening cocktail parties, weekend brunches, wine tasting experiences, and childrens tea parties, to raise funds for the organization.
17 Other activities include arts and crafts, artichoke souvenirs sales, wine tasting and cooking demos.
18 There are special interest groups for history, literature, music, and for wine tasting.
dcillessen commented 4 years ago

It seems to me that we shouldn't create a new synset specifically for the act of "wine tasting" because it is compositional. ewn-00843562-n covers this idea nicely already, and adding "wine" or "whisky" just specifies the substance being tasted.

The event of a "wine tasting" exceeds its component parts, though. In my mind it should be categorized as an event rather than a group. perhaps it would fit as a hypernym of: ewn-07461861-n (Interlingual Index: i75849) (n) "affair, occasion, social occasion, function, social function"?

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dcillessen commented 4 years ago

ewn-07461861-n has the subject noun.event

rwingerter55 commented 4 years ago

@dcillessen, your arguments convinced me. I agree with your proposal.

FWIW, vocabulary.com has many example sentences for wine tasting as an event: https://www.vocabulary.com/dictionary/wine%20tasting.

The Longman Dictionary of Contemporary English has a comprehensive definition:

the activity or skill of tasting and comparing different wines to see if they are good, or an event where this happens