How do I disable for spotlight?

[haveanicedavid]

I'm sure I'm missing something obvious here, but can't for the life of me figure out how to disable kV in spotlight search?

[godbout]

hmm. yeah. Spotlight is not an app. not even sure it has a bundle ID. will have to investigate.

[godbout]

fuck. thought maybe Spotlight is part of System Settings, but no. it just seems to be a floating panel from the OS itself. shit. more investigation needed.

[Josh-Piper]

In the same boat, I ended up binding the activation using a sequence instead of escape, that way I chose when to use KV

[godbout]

In the same boat

interesting

I ended up binding the activation using a sequence instead of escape, that way I chose when to use KV

i don't really get this tho. what do you mean. the fact that esc is taken by kV is the issue? you can choose what combination replaces the macOS esc then, in the Settings. you can use for example cmd esc and pressing this would hide Spotlight right away. or am i missing something?

[Josh-Piper]

Yeah disregard my previous comment. I think I was imagining things haha.

[haveanicedavid]

I'd still prefer being able to disable so I can make my muscle memory happy, but silly me just realized I can close out of spotlight with the same trigger command (cmd + space) so it's not really a big issue.

Originally posted this after moving from raycast (where I have KV disabled) to Spotlight, and when I'd open and want to cancel a search, I'd have to tap escape twice the normal amount. Hitting the original toggle accomplishes the same, and having vim movement in spotlight bar is growing on me

That to say - if this isn't an easy fix, probably not something that needs to be prioritized 😄

[godbout]

I'd still prefer being able to disable so I can make my muscle memory happy, but silly me just realized I can close out of spotlight with the same trigger command (cmd + space) so it's not really a big issue.

ok. but double escape is too much for you? or one of the other solution proposed in kV's Settings? (any other modifier with escape.) i'm personally super used to double escape to get out of kV's Normal Mode.

having vim movement in spotlight bar is growing on me

yeah i was wondering about that. because for the search, AND for moving through the result items, kV is pretty useful i think.

That to say - if this isn't an easy fix, probably not something that needs to be prioritized 😄

the issue is as usual that Apple allows themselves stuff out of the ordinary. so Spotlight is not an app per se. it seems to have a bundle ID tho, and if i can use that, then i can add a manual way to add bundle IDs. there's already a couple of apps that are hardcoded in kV because no sane personal will not want them in the Off Family, but for Spotlight i'm sure some people wanna have kV in there. so yeah, the solution that comes to mind now is to add some sort of "manual adding an app to a Family", where you need to type the bundle ID yourself. will keep you updated.

[haveanicedavid]

ok. but double escape is too much for you?

I use single escape to get out of kV normal mode and that works great, but what I'm referring to is situations like: You've activated spotlight, scrolled to a search result, and want to close out of it. kV doubles however many esc's I'd normally need... so instead of 3, I need 6.

It's mildly annoying, but not that big a deal, and again - just triggering the spotlight shortcut again accomplishes what I want

the solution that comes to mind now is to add some sort of "manual adding an app to a Family", where you need to type the bundle ID yourself. will keep you updated.

If these situations are rare, could you just a toggle for certain apps? Like Use in Spotlight within kv settings?

[godbout]

I use single escape to get out of kV normal mode and that works great, but what I'm referring to is situations like: You've activated spotlight, scrolled to a search result, and want to close out of it. kV doubles however many esc's I'd normally need... so instead of 3, I need 6.

OH. just tried and had no idea Spotlight was working like this. got you now. thanks!

It's mildly annoying, but not that big a deal, and again - just triggering the spotlight shortcut again accomplishes what I want

yeah. even without kV you actually need a bunch of esc to get out of Spotlight 🤣️ also you can't use the macOS standard ctrl n and ctrl p to go up and down the list of results? like you HAVE to use up and down? unbelievable. wtf is Apple doing with their UX.

the solution that comes to mind now is to add some sort of "manual adding an app to a Family", where you need to type the bundle ID yourself. will keep you updated.

If these situations are rare, could you just a toggle for certain apps? Like Use in Spotlight within kv settings?

good point. could start with something like this first. will give you credit for that one if done hahahahahahahahah

[godbout]

so yeah confirmed:

1. Spotlight doesn't have any app coz Apple, so can't drag and drop on kV's Settings
2. Spotlight still has a bundle ID so we can add it to Families

now the key is how to implement this.