Closed myitcv closed 5 years ago
(CC @rsc)
The go run
option seems pretty clean to me, and wouldn't expand the command surface at all.
Another option might be some sort of go tool
integration: go install -tool golang.org/x/tools/cmd/stringer
and go tool stringer $pkg
Have you tried retool? I am successfully using that for all my tool installs.
Have you tried retool? I am successfully using that for all my tool installs.
@gregwebs thanks for the link, yes that had come across my radar before.
I think we should avoid dependencies beyond the standard Go distribution where possible, particularly for, what some might consider, something as fundamental as this.
I think this is especially an issue not to fix with third party tools. How would you ensure that the third party tool to install tools can be easily run by all developers? It creates a circular dependency that's entirely avoided if this mechanism is available in the Go toolchain.
Since you asked, the way I ensure it can be run by all developers is with which retool >/dev/null 2>&1 || go get github.com/twitchtv/retool
before running retool do..
. Both of which are ran in a wrapper; in many projects this would be a (cluttered) Makefile for invoking make check
, etc.
I agree with the sentiment though that a package manager should solve this issue. However,
There's another desire here that is somewhat related: running any command, not just a tool in the environment that contains tool installs, the packages, and other supported environment modifications. In the stack
package manager, this is done with stack exec
.
I do think it is essential to explore the design space with third party tools first.
Agreed. This is very much the approach being followed by https://github.com/rogpeppe/gohack, too. Depending on the lessons learned, gohack
may die, bits may be absorbed back into the go
tool.... any number of possible outcomes.
Since you asked, the way I ensure it can be run by all developers is with which retool >/dev/null 2>&1 || go get github.com/twitchtv/retool before running retool do... Both of which are ran in a wrapper; in many projects this would be a (cluttered) Makefile for invoking make check, etc.
I think my main concern is simply that the guidance for every developer globally then becomes:
retool
- following the docs on this third-party websiteat which point you've "broken" one of the key benefits of Go. Not least because this combined guidance will not, by definition, be part of the official docs.
Hence why I'm keen that we get the functionality "interfaces" right here. It's also worth bearing in mind that modules are still officially experimental in 1.11, so there is still time.
As something of an experiment in this space, would appreciate feedback etc on https://github.com/myitcv/gobin
👏 gobin
basically embodies what I expect go install <package>
and go run <package>
to do. @myitcv is that the intention? If so, it might be worth arranging the tool to operate like that taking install and run commands such that the experience can be experimented with in the way the go tooling would use it.
In regards to the -r
option that allows the user to run a specific version of a package, that I assume could be implement something like go run <package>@version
, I think it would be simpler to do GOBIN=... go install <module>@version
and leave it up to the user to install the binary to a location that won't overlap with other locations because not all tools will be able to be run via the go tooling for a variety of reasons.
@leighmcculloch
is that the intention?
A bit more background on what we're trying to experiment with and why given here: https://github.com/myitcv/gobin/wiki/FAQ
In regards to the -r option that allows the user to run a specific version of a package...
(The -r
flag is now -run
.) The binary that is executed when -run
is provided is located in a cache that is guaranteed not to clash (that location is given by -p
). So I think that answers your question? If not, probably best to take conversation to an issue over at https://github.com/myitcv/gobin
Sorry, but I think this is mission creep. It's beyond the scope of the go command to virtualize your whole development environment. The go command is concerned with building code. If you want to manage versions of helper tools and all that, you probably need a more complex build system around it.
To elaborate on my last comment, another important consideration is that we want Go generally to fit in with the surrounding host system, not try to be its own self-contained bubble. I've worked on self-contained bubbles before, most notably Plan 9, and they can be tremendously elegant and productive. But they are also fundamentally isolating. They make it much harder to use things outside the bubble.
If you want to use tools for development, I want you to use the tools that work best for you, no matter what language they are written in. The protobuf compiler is two binaries, one in C++ and one in Go. You may have other important tools written in C, or Python, or Rust, or any number of other languages. The common denominator is that they are all programs you can exec. I don't want to privilege tools written in Go in some way that creates a bit of a bubble that makes it harder to use tools written in other languages. And that's exactly what I see happening here. The general problem of exec-able tool versioning is not language-specific. It would be best not to give it a language-specific solution. In contrast, the problem of versioning of importable Go packages is absolutely language-specific, so it's reasonable for the go command to have a language-specific solution.
There's probably an interesting system that could be built around versioned bin directories and the like. But that should be a general system, not tied to Go.
I like gobin because it seems to solves 95% of the problem which is tools written in go without requiring other tooling (outside the go bubble!).
I like the concept of being language agnostic even better. The stack
build tool (which has several innovations missing in other language build tools) can build in a docker container or a nix environment. So its possible to install all the tools you need into that container or nix environment.
So the solution advocated by @rsc may be satisfieable by nix-shell
: https://nixos.org/nixos/nix-pills/developing-with-nix-shell.html
@rsc
There's probably an interesting system that could be built around versioned bin directories and the like. But that should be a general system, not tied to Go.
Thanks for the comprehensive response; I understand and agree with the decision to not do this in the go
tool (and hence close this issue).
We will continue with the gobin
experiment for now.
There isn't an official solution to simulate the old go get
behavior when GO111MODULE=on
then? (get code + install binary).
I ended up copying & installing from $GOPATH/pkg/mod
I think I'll use @myitcv gobin experiment.
@rsc What's the plan with the behaviour of go get once GOPATH disappears? Will go get error if you run that command in a directory without a go.mod?
go get
outside of a module works in module mode in Go 1.12.
Note that this issue is closed. If you are running into a concrete problem that requires a response, please open a new one.
@bcmills What's the intended behavior in Go 1.12 of go get outside a module but with modules enabled? Do binaries get installed anywhere? If so, where in the absence of GOPATH?
In Go 1.12 the GOPATH
is still mentioned in those docs and so I assume binaries will likely be installed in GOPATH/bin
. I was asking about when GOPATH
disappears entirely. Will go get
stop installing binaries?
Erm, I might be a little late and I stumbled upon this issue myself. I am able to run a specific tool with specific version defined in go.mod without "external" tool. All following commands expect GO111MODULE=on
I have to do it this way because of Makefile, you can split the commands to your fit
go list -m -f '{{.Dir}}' github.com/golangci/golangci-lint | xargs -I '{}' go run "{}"/cmd/golangci-lint/main.go run
An example with go:generate
//go:generate sh -c "go run $(go list -m -f '{{.Dir}}' github.com/maxbrunsfeld/counterfeiter/v6)/main.go -- $(go list -m)/$GOPACKAGE.Client"
go mod download/verify
would download it, depending on your steps they're already theregobin
and retool
would do (as far I've seen in examples) - in my opinion just reuse the mod folder...go mod vendor
required, another usually not required export when using go modules...go run
also fine for me on a dev tool, as mentioned https://github.com/golang/go/issues/27653#issuecomment-420991917So basically I wanted a go run
way, all I needed was to find a way which path this module is checked out:
go list -m -f '{{.Dir}}' github.com/golangci/golangci-lint
/home/dionysius/Projects/go/pkg/mod/github.com/golangci/golangci-lint@v1.15.0
And then use it as prefix to the corresponding go file. With go run you can still use arguments (as here with the second "run")
What version of Go are you using (
go version
)?What did you do?
Tied to install and run a tool dependency in a number of my modules (more detail below)
What did you expect to see?
A nice easy way to (install and) run a tool dependency.
What did you see instead?
I needed to set
GOBIN
and updatePATH
for each module.Further detail (on What did you do?)
This issue builds on top of https://github.com/golang/go/issues/25922 so if that changes shape in any significant way it may void what follows.
Per https://github.com/golang/go/issues/27643#issuecomment-420788152, I think we need to make the workflow around using a module's tool dependencies easier. Let me try to explain by covering my "workflow".
The tools I use on a day-to-day basis fall into two categories:
go.mod
Dealing with these in reverse order.
Category 2: I think it's clear that with Go 1.11, there is a "gap" here and that this is covered by https://github.com/golang/go/issues/24250. Per the detail in that discussion, there are open questions on how to handle multiple versions, where the installed binaries should be put etc, but it all falls under that issue.
Category 1: by far the largest category of tools for me, made up largely of code generators that I use with
go generate
and the like. I absolutely want these to be version controlled. And I don't want to be using (via myPATH
) a "global" install of such a tool, even if the version just happens to match at that point in time. But bothgo get
andgo install
currently (i.e. Go 1.11) have a target of$GOPATH/bin
(ignoring multi-element `GOPATH values for now).Hence the workflow I have effectively adopted, building on https://github.com/golang/go/issues/25922, is to create a module-local install target:
As covered in https://github.com/golang/go/issues/27643, one of the disconnects in Go 1.11 is that a
go get
orgo install
in a module context modifies the "local"go.mod
but installs "globally". This is, as @bcmills put it, "weird". But is to my mind a gap in Go 1.11, just as there not being a "global" tool install is a gap (i.e. https://github.com/golang/go/issues/24250).Potential solutions
Just listing these here as a starting point:
go run
is a potential alternative to the "local" install here (and a very attractive one to my mind), but we need to find a way to address https://github.com/golang/go/issues/25416..bin/
directory, alongside ago.mod
, is the target forgo get
andgo install
(ofmain
packages) for "local" installs? But this wouldn't obviate the need for everyone to update theirPATH
and indeed.gitignore
the.bin
directory for every module they work on.cc @bcmills @rogpeppe @mvdan