Closed GoogleCodeExporter closed 9 years ago
sorry wrong type of issue this is of course feature request.
Original comment by guillerm...@gmail.com
on 9 Feb 2011 at 1:29
Let me describe how it works now to avoid misunderstanding. The repository is
an XML file (e.g.
http://code.google.com/p/windows-package-manager/source/browse/repository/Rep.xm
l) that is available through HTTP (e.g.
http://windows-package-manager.googlecode.com/hg/repository/Rep.xml) and
contains references to externally hosted software (e.g.
http://download.cdburnerxp.se/portable/CDBurnerXP-4.3.5.2256.zip). Npackd can
use multiple repositories.
Could you please describe what is problematic in your opinion in this approach
and how would Torrent solve the issue?
Original comment by tim.lebe...@gmail.com
on 9 Feb 2011 at 6:33
Well is urgent problem right now. I'm only suggesting that it would future
proof the program so the coding efforts don't get wasted if Microsoft decides
to implement their own open repository or the software vendors decide that you
can only use their url through their pages i've seen this second problem happen
before, the case: liberkey.
Liberkey is a freeware software to keep many portable apps on an usb device,
they offer automatic update and automatic adding of software to your usb, the
problem began when the original software sources decided that they don't want
Liberkey providing software without them, Liberkey decided to cut the middle
man and make things easier for the user with a central updating and installing
of software, the developers of the software didnt liked this and right now you
can't get some software because of this.
If you use torrents you won't be using their resources and the third parties
have one thing less to complain, plus you can keep multiple versions of the
same software on the stream of torrents even if the third party decide to take
it down.
Original comment by guillerm...@gmail.com
on 9 Feb 2011 at 10:31
@guillermo: So you want to create a torrent of every program listed in the repo
of npackd?
I see many problems with this idea, e.g. how to keep the torrents alive.
I'm only starting npackd when i need a program and i delete every installer i
downloaded to my computer, so I whould be a bad seeder (and i guess i'm not the
only one).
If you'd create a torrent-server-service which would start up while booting it
will most likely end up with users deactivating this service or (worst case)
deinstalling npackd because of the bandwidthusage.
I guess there are two ways of handling with vendors who are causing trouble:
1. Talk to them and see if there's any chance of agreement so both parties are
happy.
2. Remove the program from the repo.
Original comment by xao...@gmail.com
on 9 Feb 2011 at 11:49
Yeah the usual seeders problem, it would happen what happens with every torrent
when the program is new there would be a lot of activity and the previous
version would die naturally if there are no seed you can always back down to
the vendor's regular url.
Another advantage you could gain with the torrent is buzz, torrent news attract
many people this project could easily explode if it implemented something like
that, you know, going viral.
But being realistic the idea just mean more work for the devs here without any
significant advantage and since there is no immediate problem to solve it makes
no sense in the current context but there are some advantages for the long term
and maybe short term if it became popular.
Thanks for the discussion.
Original comment by guillerm...@gmail.com
on 10 Feb 2011 at 4:15
have not seen LiberKey yet. Thanks for the pointer.
The problem with vendors not letting you download their software cannot be
solved by using Torrent. In most cases the corresponding license disallows
redistribution.
Original comment by tim.lebe...@gmail.com
on 10 Feb 2011 at 9:16
Original comment by tim.lebe...@gmail.com
on 10 Feb 2011 at 9:19
as far as I understand Torrent does not solve the original problem (software
vendors that do not allow direct software download/redistribution). I will
close this issue as Invalid. Please speak up if you think that it is not right.
Original comment by tim.lebe...@gmail.com
on 11 Feb 2011 at 9:46
Original comment by tim.lebe...@gmail.com
on 19 Feb 2011 at 7:59
Original comment by tim.lebe...@gmail.com
on 15 Oct 2011 at 7:00
Original issue reported on code.google.com by
guillerm...@gmail.com
on 9 Feb 2011 at 1:27