feedback from Douglas Davidson

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(I am omitting feedback already provided by others.)

First, two questions about unification:

e-4E2 BILL WITH YEN SIGN:  is this clearly distinguished from an
enclosed yen sign?

[...]

e-02A CLOCK SYMBOL:  none of the other clock variants have "symbol" in
their names; perhaps just CLOCK would suffice

e-198 HAIR NEEDING A CUT:  the original significance seems to be
something like "hairdresser" or "beauty parlor"; perhaps this could be
shorted to just HAIRCUT

e-1AC RED FACED OGRE:  names probably shouldn't mention color unless
it's really necessary--perhaps this could be JAPANESE OGRE or ONI
DEMON or something similar

e-1B0 EXTRATERRESTRIAL ALIEN:  perhaps ALIEN HEAD or ALIEN FACE would
be more consistent

e-1B5 GUARDSMAN:  the first female Beefeater was appointed last year,
so perhaps something ungendered like GUARD or BEEFEATER might be better

e-1E1 HONEY BEE:  this is more usually one word, HONEYBEE

e-328 FACE WITH LOOK OF TRIUMPH:  this would be more consistent as
TRIUMPHANT FACE

e-329 FACE WINKING WITH STUCK OUT TONGUE:  this would be more
consistent as WINKING FACE WITH STUCK OUT TONGUE

e-32B FACE WITH YUMMY LOOK:  this sounds odd, but I'm not sure what
would be better; perhaps SATISFIED FACE

e-32E FACE WITH A MASK:  this would be more consistent as FACE WITH MASK

e-339 LITTLE CRYING FACE:  'little' seems inappropriate here, since
the face isn't little; perhaps just CRYING FACE would be enough to
distinguish it from e-33A

e-33B PALE FACE:  this would be more consistent as FEARFUL FACE

e-341 SHOCKED FACE WITH SCREAM:  perhaps just SHOCKED FACE or
SCREAMING FACE would suffice

e-343 SMIRKY FACE:  this would be more consistent as SMIRKING FACE

e-345 DISAPPOINTED BUT RELIEVED FACE:  this might be more consistent
as DISAPPOINTED FACE WITH COLD SWEAT

e-35A PERSON MAKING POUTING FACE  this might be more consistent as
PERSON WITH POUTING FACE

e-4B0 BLACK HOUSE, e-4B1 HOME:  usually 'black' is used to distinguish
filled-in from open glyphs, but that doesn't seem to be the
distinction here

e-514 TWO JAPANESE FLAGS:  perhaps CROSSED JAPANESE FLAGS instead

e-519 GIRLS DOLLS FESTIVAL:  the repeated 's' suffix seems awkward;
perhaps GIRLS DOLL FESTIVAL instead

e-51D JAPANESE SPARKLER:  is this specifically Japanese, or would just
SPARKLER suffice?

e-520 DECORATIVE CONFETTI BALL:  are there non-decorative confetti
balls?  perhaps just CONFETTI BALL would suffice

e-530 LOUD SPEAKER:  this is more usually one word, LOUDSPEAKER

e-B7F SYMBOLS SIGN:  generally 'sign' seems to be used for an actual
physical sign, 'symbol' for a written symbol; for consistency with the
surrounding characters, this would have to be SYMBOLS SYMBOL

e-553 FOOT PRINTS:  this is more usually one word, FOOTPRINTS

e-805 BLACK SILK HAT:  perhaps TOP HAT instead

e-80F A DIE:  few other names have an article; if DIE is ambiguous,
perhaps SIX-SIDED DIE would do

e-972 MEAT ON A BONE:  perhaps this could omit the article, and just
be MEAT ON BONE

e-974 ROASTED SWEET POTATO:  perhaps just SWEET POTATO would suffice

e-97C LOLLYPOP:  this is more usually LOLLIPOP

Original issue reported on code.google.com by markus.icu on 7 Jan 2009 at 10:44

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Douglas also suggested:

e-4D6 HIGH HEELED SHOE:  perhaps HIGH-HEELED SHOE might be better

I replied:

We are planning to rename this one WOMANS PUMPS: [link to issue 60]

And Rick replied to that:

Even worse. I like Doug Davidson's suggestion better than that.

Original comment by markus.icu on 7 Jan 2009 at 11:09

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Can we decide to go with HIGH-HEELED SHOE on this one? Unless I hear otherwise, 
it
will be HIGH-HEELED SHOE.

Original comment by katmomoi on 12 Jan 2009 at 9:47

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HIGH-HEELED SHOE works for me.

Original comment by markus.icu on 12 Jan 2009 at 9:49

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A change to HIGH-HEELED SHOE was made in r97. We will address the remaining
suggestions in this issue.

Original comment by katmomoi on 12 Jan 2009 at 10:44

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My replies to the items except the 10 issues concerning faces. They will be 
dealt with separately. 

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e-4E2 BILL WITH YEN SIGN:  is this clearly distinguished from an
enclosed yen sign?

--> Yes. e-4e2 is an oblong check with the Yen sign on it. It is not a simple 
enclosed Yen sign. 

[...]

e-02A CLOCK SYMBOL:  none of the other clock variants have "symbol" in
their names; perhaps just CLOCK would suffice

--> We could rename this to CLOCK FACE SYMBOL to be consistent with the rest of 
the series. I think 'SYMBOL'is needed to indicate the general nature of 
this Emoji.

e-198 HAIR NEEDING A CUT:  the original significance seems to be
something like "hairdresser" or "beauty parlor"; perhaps this could be
shorted to just HAIRCUT

--> HAIRCUT will be fine. Add a note about beauty parlor. We also need a design 
note that this Emoji needs to show a female.

e-1AC RED FACED OGRE:  names probably shouldn't mention color unless
it's really necessary--perhaps this could be JAPANESE OGRE or ONI
DEMON or something similar

--> The Japanese name refers to "Namahage", a local yea-end event/tradition in 
Akita. Namahage faces can be red or blue and they are not necessary ogres. 
I propose to change this to:

ONI-FACED DEMON (or lessd preferred OGRE-FACED DEMON).

e-1B0 EXTRATERRESTRIAL ALIEN:  perhaps ALIEN HEAD or ALIEN FACE would
be more consistent

--> The KDDI Emoji shows an alien ship while the Softbank version shows an 
alien face. Both are meant to represent an extraterrestrial. We should keep the 
current naming.

e-1B5 GUARDSMAN:  the first female Beefeater was appointed last year,
so perhaps something ungendered like GUARD or BEEFEATER might be better

--> We rejected BEEFEATER because it is too specific. GUARDSMAN is used for 
both male and female members of the military guard. I propose to keep this as 
is.

e-1E1 HONEY BEE:  this is more usually one word, HONEYBEE

--> Agreed. Change to HONEYBEE

e-4B0 BLACK HOUSE, e-4B1 HOME:  usually 'black' is used to distinguish
filled-in from open glyphs, but that doesn't seem to be the
distinction here

--> The docomo Emoji is filled but the other 2 Emoji are not. Need to discuss 
this.

e-514 TWO JAPANESE FLAGS:  perhaps CROSSED JAPANESE FLAGS instead

--> CROSSED JAPANESE FLAGS sounds OK to me and more descriptive. I suggest a 
change to this naming.

e-519 GIRLS DOLLS FESTIVAL:  the repeated 's' suffix seems awkward;
perhaps GIRLS DOLL FESTIVAL instead

--> I am OK with the suggested change. It sounds better.

e-51D JAPANESE SPARKLER:  is this specifically Japanese, or would just
SPARKLER suffice?

--> Keep the current name. 線香花火 is a sparkler made in the shape of a 
burning incense stick. This is a special type of fireworks that originated in 
Japan.

e-520 DECORATIVE CONFETTI BALL:  are there non-decorative confetti
balls?  perhaps just CONFETTI BALL would suffice

--> Normally no. I am OK with CONFETTI BALL

e-530 LOUD SPEAKER:  this is more usually one word, LOUDSPEAKER

--. Change to LOUDSPEAKER

e-B7F SYMBOLS SIGN:  generally 'sign' seems to be used for an actual
physical sign, 'symbol' for a written symbol; for consistency with the
surrounding characters, this would have to be SYMBOLS SYMBOL

--> Yes. Or else simply SYMBOLS

e-553 FOOT PRINTS:  this is more usually one word, FOOTPRINTS

--> Agreed. Chaneg to FOOTPRINTS

e-805 BLACK SILK HAT:  perhaps TOP HAT instead

--> The Japanese name is simply "Silk hat" and no mention of color. How about 
SILK HAT or TOP HAT? 

e-80F A DIE:  few other names have an article; if DIE is ambiguous,
perhaps SIX-SIDED DIE would do

--> To avoid an article, how about GAME DIE. SIX_SIDED DIE sounds good, too. 
But is there any other kind of dice?

e-972 MEAT ON A BONE:  perhaps this could omit the article, and just
be MEAT ON BONE

--> I am OK with changing this to MEAT ON BONE

e-974 ROASTED SWEET POTATO:  perhaps just SWEET POTATO would suffice

--> No change. Yakiimo (焼き芋) refers to **roasted** potato of a certain 
type.

e-97C LOLLYPOP:  this is more usually LOLLIPOP

--> Merriam Webster's 11th Collegiate English Dictionary has LOLLIPOP as the 
main entery and LOLLYPOP as a vriant. Will change to more common LOLLIPOP

Original comment by katmomoi on 15 Jan 2009 at 9:57

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About e-80F A DIE: Yes, there are other dice with more faces, often used in 
adventure 
games. E.g., http://images.google.com/images?q=12+sided+die

Depending on how specific this wants to be, GAME DIE or SIX SIDED DIE could 
work. 
(Unicode character names seem to usually omit the hyphen, as in U+2736 SIX 
POINTED 
BLACK STAR.)

Original comment by markus.icu on 15 Jan 2009 at 10:27

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e-530  LOUDSPEAKER - this looks like an outdoors public announcement 
loudspeaker so its not wrong, but it 
doesn't contrast well with MEGAPHONE.
http://images.google.com/images?gbv=2&hl=en&q=loudspeaker&btnG=Search+Images

e-52F  MEGAPHONE - this is an old-fashioned shouting cone, wheras modern 
hand-held megaphones are 
electric and look like LOUDSPEAKER with a pistol grip. 
http://images.google.com/images?gbv=2&hl=en&q=megaphone&btnG=Search+Images

PROPOSAL: Draw a modern indoors hi-fi loudspeaker for LOUDSPEAKER & use the 
existing LOUDSPEAKER 
glyph with a pistol grip for e-52F MEGAPHONE as the pistol grip is distinct to 
this usage.

Original comment by loft...@apple.com on 15 Jan 2009 at 11:21

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Apple/Google:

e-328 FACE WITH LOOK OF TRIUMPH:  this would be more consistent as
TRIUMPHANT FACE
-> no change

e-329 FACE WINKING WITH STUCK OUT TONGUE:  this would be more
consistent as WINKING FACE WITH STUCK OUT TONGUE
-> ok

e-32B FACE WITH YUMMY LOOK:  this sounds odd, but I'm not sure what
would be better; perhaps SATISFIED FACE
-> FACE SAVORING DELICIOUS FOOD

e-32E FACE WITH A MASK:  this would be more consistent as FACE WITH MASK
-> ok

e-339 LITTLE CRYING FACE:  'little' seems inappropriate here, since
the face isn't little; perhaps just CRYING FACE would be enough to
distinguish it from e-33A
-> ok

e-33B PALE FACE:  this would be more consistent as FEARFUL FACE
-> ok

e-341 SHOCKED FACE WITH SCREAM:  perhaps just SHOCKED FACE or
SCREAMING FACE would suffice
-> FACE SCREAMING IN FEAR

e-343 SMIRKY FACE:  this would be more consistent as SMIRKING FACE
-> ok

e-345 DISAPPOINTED BUT RELIEVED FACE:  this might be more consistent
as DISAPPOINTED FACE WITH COLD SWEAT
-> no change because of Japanese semantics

e-35A PERSON MAKING POUTING FACE  this might be more consistent as
PERSON WITH POUTING FACE
-> ok

Original comment by markus.icu on 16 Jan 2009 at 9:54

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Images of Monopoly House
http://images.google.com/images?gbv=2&hl=en&q=monopoly+house&btnG=Search+Images

Original comment by loft...@apple.com on 16 Jan 2009 at 10:32

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Apple/Google:

Go with Kat's reply, except for the following:

e-02A CLOCK SYMBOL:  none of the other clock variants have "symbol" in
their names; perhaps just CLOCK would suffice

--> We could rename this to CLOCK FACE SYMBOL to be consistent with the rest of 
the 
series. I think 'SYMBOL'is needed to indicate the general nature of 
this Emoji.

-> change to ALARM CLOCK and change the glyph

e-1AC RED FACED OGRE:  names probably shouldn't mention color unless
it's really necessary--perhaps this could be JAPANESE OGRE or ONI
DEMON or something similar

--> The Japanese name refers to "Namahage", a local yea-end event/tradition in 
Akita. 
Namahage faces can be red or blue and they are not necessary ogres. 
I propose to change this to:

ONI-FACED DEMON (or lessd preferred OGRE-FACED DEMON).

-> change to OGRE
-> Annotate: "In Japanese, Oni"

-> also change e-1AD LONG NOSED GOBLIN to GOBLIN
-> Annotate: "In Japanese, Tengu"

e-4B0 BLACK HOUSE, e-4B1 HOME:  usually 'black' is used to distinguish
filled-in from open glyphs, but that doesn't seem to be the
distinction here

--> The docomo Emoji is filled but the other 2 Emoji are not. Need to discuss 
this.

-> e-4B0: HOUSE BUILDING
-> e-4B1: HOUSE WITH YARD

e-51D JAPANESE SPARKLER:  is this specifically Japanese, or would just
SPARKLER suffice?

--> Keep the current name. 線香花火 is a sparkler made in the shape of a 
burning 
incense stick. This is a special type of fireworks that originated in 
Japan.

-> FIREWORK SPARKLER

e-530 LOUD SPEAKER:  this is more usually one word, LOUDSPEAKER

--. Change to LOUDSPEAKER

-> handled with issue 101

e-B7F SYMBOLS SIGN:  generally 'sign' seems to be used for an actual
physical sign, 'symbol' for a written symbol; for consistency with the
surrounding characters, this would have to be SYMBOLS SYMBOL

--> Yes. Or else simply SYMBOLS

-> SYMBOLS INPUT SYMBOL
-> also change e-B80 ENGLISH LANGUAGE SYMBOL to LATIN LETTERS SYMBOL

e-805 BLACK SILK HAT:  perhaps TOP HAT instead

--> The Japanese name is simply "Silk hat" and no mention of color. How about 
SILK 
HAT or TOP HAT? 

-> TOP HAT

e-80F A DIE:  few other names have an article; if DIE is ambiguous,
perhaps SIX-SIDED DIE would do

--> To avoid an article, how about GAME DIE. SIX_SIDED DIE sounds good, too. 
But is 
there any other kind of dice?

-> GAME DIE

Original comment by markus.icu on 16 Jan 2009 at 11:00

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Original comment by markus.icu on 20 Jan 2009 at 11:45

• Changed state: Agreed

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Fixed in r131. Made agreed on changes in comment 5 and comment 10.
Also provided/modified description and design notes.

Original comment by katmomoi on 23 Jan 2009 at 12:03

• Changed state: Fixed

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r131 looks good, but it's missing the changes for face symbols from comment 8. 
Please 
make those changes as well.

Original comment by markus.icu on 23 Jan 2009 at 9:17

• Changed state: Agreed

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Thanks for pointing out the omissions. 
r132 fixes all the issues mentioned in comment 8.

Original comment by katmomoi on 23 Jan 2009 at 10:05

• Changed state: Fixed

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thanks!

Original comment by markus.icu on 23 Jan 2009 at 10:47

• Changed state: Verified