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glyph for e-813 MUSICAL NOTE #77

Closed GoogleCodeExporter closed 9 years ago

GoogleCodeExporter commented 9 years ago
I asked Ken about possible unification with U+1D160 MUSICAL SYMBOL EIGHTH 
NOTE. He and Rick rejected that but Ken suggested:

Just make the U+1F4A4 glyph have a whimsical, emoji-appropriate, dingbatty 
shape that is *inappropriate* for formal musical typesetting, and people 
will not worry about its non-identity with U+1D160.

and Rick sent me a cute image for it.

In another discussion, Ken suggested that we use precisely the same glyphs 
for only color-distinguished symbols. Maybe we should match the e-813 glyph 
closely to what U+266A EIGHTH NOTE looks like in the book?

Original issue reported on code.google.com by markus.icu on 9 Jan 2009 at 11:13

GoogleCodeExporter commented 9 years ago
From:Asmus Freytag sent to emoji4unicode:

Please add this to the per-character notes.

Andrew asked:
       Will MUSICAL NOTE, ifencoded, have a compatibility decomposition to EIGHTH NOTE ?

My reply:

My counter-question: would that be helpful to anyone?

A cross-reference would be one thing (that would be clearly helpful). A
formal compatibility decomposition is something that is to be applied in
the context of NFKC or NFKD. Applying either of these normalization
forms to arbitrary text is fraught with problems - so the only case
where the use of, say, NFKC can be unhesitatingly recommended is in the
context of identifier matching. The reason for that is that identifiers
don't allow characters for which NFKC of NFKC is problematical to begin
with. Identifiers would not allow either of the musical notes.
Therefore, the one recommended application of NFKC or NFKD would not
actually make a difference in this case.

EIGHTH note exists in SHIFT-JIS at 81F4. If the emoji set codes MUSICAL
NOTE as an extension to SHIFT-JIS, source separation requires that it be
given a different code from EIGHTH NOTE otherwise message text using
both standard SHIFT-JIS and the emoji extensions would not always roundtrip.

A better approach than calling the new character "musical" note would be
to call out that its usage is by definition unrelated from musical
notation (while EIGTH NOTE is unified with the use in musical notation).

If the emoji representation is always more prominent, it could be
encoded as BOLD EIGHTH NOTE, or LARGE EIGHTH NOTE as the case may be,
and that would allow it to get a standard compat. decomposition for
stylistic difference as is done by precedent. If it is merely conceived
of as "NOTE, DURATION UNSPECIFIED" then there's no need for a
decomposition, because the difference is semantic.

Original comment by katmomoi on 10 Jan 2009 at 2:19

GoogleCodeExporter commented 9 years ago

Original comment by markus.icu on 15 Jan 2009 at 7:05

GoogleCodeExporter commented 9 years ago

Original comment by markus.icu on 20 Jan 2009 at 11:48

GoogleCodeExporter commented 9 years ago
Apple/Google: Make glyph a bit more upbeat, jazzy.

Original comment by markus.icu on 21 Jan 2009 at 9:49

GoogleCodeExporter commented 9 years ago
fixed in 1.0d3

Original comment by loft...@apple.com on 22 Jan 2009 at 10:28

GoogleCodeExporter commented 9 years ago
I like it.

Original comment by markus.icu on 23 Jan 2009 at 9:49