User feedback on Edu VIC WA NT Beginner: "the flicks on the letters are not correct"

[rokapoz]

Listnr report:

" This is a great font, and I use it regularly as it is the closest on Google Docs to Victorian Cursive. However for it to match the Victorian Cursive the flicks on the letters are not correct, many are missing and the cross bars on I and J are also incorrect. See this link https://www.education.vic.gov.au/Documents/school/teachers/teachingresources/discipline/english/alphabetmodela.pdf I'm not sure if you can update it to better represent the victorian font. "

[chrissimpkins]

@EbenSorkin Mind having a look at this bug report to see if this requires design revisions? This is an anonymous user report that came in through our front end. We won't be able to seek additional clarifications. They are anonymous reports.

[EbenSorkin]

Sure!

It makes sense that the woman who made this font would have found different details salient in terms of recognizing the taught pattern than the reporting woman did.

If it looks like it makes sense to make a revision I'll let Simon know especially since (I think) he is nearly done getting it ready to go live.

-e.

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@EbenSorkin https://github.com/EbenSorkin Mind having a look at this bug report to see if this requires design revisions? This is an anonymous user report that came in through our front end. We won't be able to seek additional clarifications. They are anonymous reports.

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[emmamarichal]

@EbenSorkin @simoncozens, I let you open an issue in the upstream repo, if some revisions are needed here. I close this one for now! thanks!

[EbenSorkin]

I do plan on updating this starting today.

-e.

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@EbenSorkin https://github.com/EbenSorkin @simoncozens https://github.com/simoncozens, I let you open an issue in the upstream repo, if some revisions are needed here. I close this one for now! thanks!

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[vv-monsalve]

Confirming: So, should the recently merged #7628 be blocked for now and updated before proceeding further in the pipeline?

[EbenSorkin]

I don’t know. I feel like if I do hold it to update this it might take longer than internal customers in sales would prefer. But that’s just an impression and might be false.

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Confirming: So, should the recently merged #7628 https://github.com/google/fonts/pull/7628 be blocked for now and updated before proceeding further in the pipeline?

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[vv-monsalve]

If you will address it now (today) and include it in all subsequent Edu VIC PRs, I think this one should be updated before, for consistency's sake.

[simoncozens]

Wait a minute. This is Edu VIC WA NT Beginner, not Edu VIC WA NT Hand. Different family.

[vv-monsalve]

Ough! The name structure within this wide range of Edu families makes them a bit confusing or difficult to differentiate! :') Okay, these changes would not apply to any current PRs, right?

[EbenSorkin]

This is a one-source-to-many build so it would apply to that source but just one product. Is that correct Simon?

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Ough! The name structure within this wide range of Edu families makes them a bit confusing or difficult to differentiate! :') Okay, these changes would not apply to any current PRs, right?

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[simoncozens]

The Hand families (https://github.com/SorkinType/VICWANTSchoolHandAustralia) produce multiple fonts from the same source, but they do not produce Edu VIC WA NT Beginner. This font comes from completely separate sources (https://github.com/MezMerrit/AU-School-Handwriting-Fonts), and we onboarded it some time ago.

This issue might actually apply to both sets of handwriting families - I haven't checked - but I want to be clear that the reporter is talking about the Beginner font which is already in prod.

[vv-monsalve]

This is a one-source-to-many build so it would apply to that source but

It was from this understanding that I made the question. Beginners is one of the previous families in prod for a long time now. But, when Eben said he would apply the changes, I understood he was referring to the current source files, hence the question.

This issue might actually apply to both sets of handwriting families - I haven't checked

If this is the case, we should be sure that any change that gets incorporated now and if it applies to the recently merged family it should receive also.