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Codes for stations and stop points / line codes / line pictograms #404

Open VolksNav opened 11 months ago

VolksNav commented 11 months ago

I'm a German-Brazilian inventor and I've developed an orientation system based on imaginary clocks, a method used for more than 120 years. It opens space for about 25 innovative applications, for example for passengers:

www.volksnav.de/Omnibus.

I propose a GTFS upgrade with following open and user friendly data:

1 - Line codes with orientation content instead of aleatory line numbers.

2 - Line pictograms based on a standard reference circle called r100 www.volksnav.de/r100

3 - Imaginable codes for stations and stop points Example Tokyo Metro www.volksnav.de/TokyoMetro. All other alternatives are enigmatic: www.volksnav.de/alternatives.

These smart making data would harmonize with

Public transportation companies are asked to support such innovations to reduce the searching time of the passengers.

VolksNav commented 11 months ago

Actual information from Cameroon's capital city: The line codes of the bus route Olembé-Ahala (lines 12>6 and 6>12) and their stop point codes have been defined and have the chance to be mentioned on history books as world's first imaginable line and location codes: www.volksnav.de/Yaounde.

skinkie commented 11 months ago

Would you grant a free, irrevocable, permanent, unconditional, license to producers and consumers who would incorporate this information? Your licensing scheme is incompatible with our standardisation practises.

VolksNav commented 11 months ago

Hi Stefan,

the answer can only be “YES, what else?”

Mobilitydata.org invited me to suggest these GTFS complements within this GitHub community. I see GTFS as DATA and the 3 proposed DATA have the same characteristics as stop names, their coordinates and line numbers:

The more this information is used, the better.

In my case, a license is only needed in case organizations want more assistance and more complex benefits, for example a Public Private Partnership on international levels.

Besides: all open/free/libre initiatives are IDEA KILLERS. Why should someone invest time and creativity if intellectual properties aren’t honored and sometimes even combated? For example, OSM is damned to impede any discussions about reference grids and location codes. Some experts tell the following joke: what costs little is worth less, what costs nothing… will become ISO standard !

Please ask yourself as passenger in Korea, Japan, China, Egypt etc.: would you prefer

I’d appreciate if you’d invite the authorities of Limburg etc. to discuss this issue.

eliasmbd commented 11 months ago

@VolksNav GTFS is an Open Source specification that has been around for a while. While 'idea killer' might be a tad forceful, let's endeavor to foster a positive and welcoming atmosphere here on GitHub, especially since many successful projects are driven by open collaboration. In the case of GTFS, changes are driven by ideas that the community finds useful and then refined by consensus building discussions.

VolksNav commented 11 months ago

Sorry for the incorrectness. Can my comment be deleted?

It‘s an usual expression in many countries among artists and other creative persons. Imagine you’d have an idea for a book and your own wife says “nobody will buy it”. This is an IK.

A detail which could help our understanding: some administrations, for example emergency services, prefer proprietary than open location codes. That means, the priority “open” in some cases can drive to suboptimal solutions.

In this case, the openness of the suggested data is the perfect solution for all.