googlecreativelab / open-nsynth-super

Open NSynth Super is an experimental physical interface for the NSynth algorithm
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"You will need to obtain or build your PCB before proceeding further with this guide." #2

Closed FuzzyWobble closed 6 years ago

FuzzyWobble commented 6 years ago

Hello :) What exactly do you mean by "obtain"?

undothis commented 6 years ago

Are there any builders out there?

Also if there are only 4 sound sources how can there be 100,000 sounds is that because of the variations of the 4 sound sources ?

HelveticaScenario commented 6 years ago

i just used macrofab.com to order a partially assembled (smt) pcb. took some fiddling around tho. some of the necessary files arent included in the renders so they need to be exported from kicad and the part id's for the bom need to be entered manually

mcnasby commented 6 years ago

Out of curiousity, what did the cost come to for the board through macrofab? Also, would you be willing to share any of the files you adjusted for use with macrofab?

ensonic commented 6 years ago

The page make sas one can order the PCB with components, but I can't find any link :/

kasperkamperman commented 6 years ago

@HelveticaScenario would you mind sharing the other necessary files.

sqfmi commented 6 years ago

You can get the plain PCB here https://www.tindie.com/products/11702/

axmonti commented 6 years ago

Ordered the PCB from the above link (cheap!); also created a "pure" Digi-Key BOM:

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1Hz521jbr1duW_I0DMHjfOVAaWWFHkrFS/view?usp=sharing

Note that the BOM doesn't include case hardware (screws, standoffs, etc.), the heatsink, and the only rotary encoder in-stock has 24 detents (instead of 12) - still 12PPR

aaronortiz commented 6 years ago

Maybe we need a tablet app for this!

sqfmi commented 6 years ago

The KLBR 4 Audio Connector wasn't available on Digi-Key, so I replaced the footprint with another audio connector in my fork. I created a Digi-Key cart as well with all the components here, swapped some of the components that were low/out of stock.

axmonti commented 6 years ago

Great, but the one I chose had the same pin layout as the KLBR 4 and included a switch (I believe the KBLR 4 had a switch, but I could be mistaken). My BOM was based on Digi-Key Canada - YMMV for what's in-stock, so it's great to have a few BOMs floating around!

HelveticaScenario commented 6 years ago

@kasperkamperman @mcnasby the cost of the printing, the smt components, and the labor cost to place them came out to $123.08, without shipping. This doesnt cover any other costs like the through hole components, raspberry pi, screen, case, etc. The modifications i made were actually done inside their interface and i cant find a way to export or share it. ive emailed their support team and hopefully they will get back to me.

sqfmi commented 6 years ago

@axmonti good call! I updated the footprint to accept switch/no switch connectors

RichardBronosky commented 6 years ago

Why does this require a PCB? This is insane. RPi + potentiometers + rotary encoders + Android device connected via BLE. Done.

HelveticaScenario commented 6 years ago

NSynthSuperMacrofab.zip @kasperkamperman @mcnasby These are the files, let me know if they dont work

ailgun commented 6 years ago

@aaronortiz you probably can use the NSynth M4L device with MIRA and have it on tablet anyway.

undothis commented 6 years ago

For some reason the telephone number to buy the PCB’s is not working. Any thoughts?

213-746-7272

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aaronortiz commented 6 years ago

@ailgun Can you point me to MIRA? I don't know what it is, sadly.

ailgun commented 6 years ago

@aaronortiz it's cycling74's iPad application to mirror the Max patches you have. https://cycling74.com/products/mira

Even magenta uses it in it's 'ai jam' example, you can see it here; https://github.com/tensorflow/magenta-demos/tree/master/ai-jam-ableton or here; https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZRnbbtqxBEc

My idea was to mirror the NSynth Max for Live patch to the iPad via MIRA so it practically would be a tablet version NSynth Super [without the colours etc]. I don't have time right now but might try to actually implement it and share it here in a few weeks.

sqfmi commented 6 years ago

You can now get the semi-assembled PCB here https://www.tindie.com/products/11733/

All SMD parts soldered, just need to bring your own pi + discrete components

NullMember commented 6 years ago

@sqfmi your tindie page says it's just bare PCB. Are you sure SMD parts are soldered?

cameronaaron commented 6 years ago

I'm wondering this as well! He is the seller though so I trust him

sqfmi commented 6 years ago

@NullMember @cameronaaron sorry about that, looks like the tindie admins haven't published the listing yet, should be up shortly!

NullMember commented 6 years ago

@sqfmi interestingly when I search NSynth word on tindie I can see semi-assembled version in results. But when I click the product it's redirect me to your store page

MariusLub commented 6 years ago

Same for me here, i just ordered the PCB from squaro's link. I wanted the semi assembled one but i just realized It said "plain". What should i be expecting ?

ailgun commented 6 years ago

@NullMember it doesn't appear when searched as well. I wonder when will it be online?

cameronaaron commented 6 years ago

@sqfmi Any ideas when this will be up?

sqfmi commented 6 years ago

Looks like the link is now up, sorry about the delay!

https://www.tindie.com/products/11733/

@cameronaaron @NullMember @ailgun @MariusLub

axmonti commented 6 years ago

So, while we're waiting for boards/parts, has anyone installed the Open NSynth Super audio pipeline and started to create sounds to load on NSynth? It would be great if there was an initial corpus of sounds to download (either the initial wav files, or a ready-to-load set) and play around with. Complex convolutions appear to take a couple of days to process on decent hardware.

axmonti commented 6 years ago

@sqfmi Received your board today - looks great - thanks (nice business card as well). Strange that the USPS tracking number provided still indicates that a label has been created but not yet in the system (not sure others have received their board yet). If I knew it was coming, I would have released my Digi-Key BOM, but at least I'll have the parts for a weekend build.