googlefonts / Gulzar

Nastaliq font
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SIL Open Font License 1.1
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Sindhi ڪ should not be rendered like ک #85

Open bgo-eiu opened 1 year ago

bgo-eiu commented 1 year ago

Unlike the relationship with Arabic ك, where we may consider ک to be the Perso-Indic variant, ڪ is intended to be distinct and used in conjunction with ک where they would be expected to be rendered differently where they occur in the same words or sentence. Sindhi just has a massive consonant inventory compared to most languages and needs to maintain this difference. Somewhat confusingly, the sound of ڪ is that of ک in other Pakistani languages, and ک is used for a different sound altogether. Pakistan is spelled پاڪستان in Sindhi.

bgo-eiu commented 1 year ago

Sukkur-Railway-Station-2-51-1554551360(1)

This photo of Sukkur railway station in Sindh, Pakistan may be helpful for reference. The name is in Urdu on top and Sindhi underneath on the sign in the bottom left.

saadatm commented 1 year ago

@bgo-eiu I am curious: do you have any examples of the Sindhi ڪ drawn in nastaliq? I have always seen it in naskh but never in nastaliq. (This was also discussed on Twitter a while ago: https://twitter.com/AMMoslehi/status/1536656712949813250 )

bgo-eiu commented 1 year ago

@saadatm I have wondered this also. I know Sindhi is an exception among the major languages of the region in not typically being printed in Nastaliq, but I would think it must have been done somewhere. If only to cite Sindhi text within a larger body of Urdu or Punjabi or some other language it would be helpful to be able to.

khaledhosny commented 1 year ago

I had a request to add ڪ to a Nadtaliq font and I couldn't find any example anywhere for its use in Nastaliq. I’d be interested if anyone finds such an example, though I’m skeptical such thing exists.