Closed vikagrabowska closed 9 months ago
vikagrabowska
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1 year ago л This is an issue I see in various connections with letters with diacritics, not only with л, I think it is worth checking for the whole character set. Sometimes the connection is fixed for the basic letterform only, but not for the letter with diacritic.
I also noticed issue like that, but I guess when Great Vibes switch to .calt instead of ligatures it will be fixed.
vikagrabowska
commented
1 year ago Hi Rob,
I decided to change a method of passing my notes. While I check the text setting in Octopus and make many observations there I thought it might be useful to share with you the document with actual pairs in a form of text which is easier to copy / paste and reuse in a process of further corrections. GreatVibes-Regular_LCtoLC.pdf
I hope my handwriting will not be too terrible to read. I also have an Eastern European habit of writing -r (in a v-like way). If any of these will be hard to read please let me know!
I will post a document for UC to LC connections in a separate issue.
My best, Vika
а (a-cy)
ат, ап, ак, аю, ађ, аћ - this is an optical thing preset also in Latin pair an, but I'm wondering if the white space under the connector can be just a touch bigger? It is greatly achieved in ар, for example.
In Cyrillic it gets more noticeable in ак, as к drawing seems to be slightly too dark and tight on its own join.
ал
This connection is not readable.
It needs to be built similarly as ил, where the tail of и joins the terminal of л.
аж
I think altering top left of the first curve in ж to be less convex would be beneficial for many connections with ж, not only аж.
б (be-cy)
б seem to create a bit of a white gap in overall rhythm with rounded forms as а or в.
There is no similar issue with verticals. Here *бш and бн are looking good to my eyes.
бб and вб might deserve a ligature or .calt in order not to collide.
I wouldn't recommend this connection in бл and бя. While бм seems a bit far from each other, it reads better. This might be an argument for making the left leg of л, м, я less wide / long. And independently from this exact observation I would recommend making such a change for the leg of я.
бх and бж make an impression like there should be a connection there. This impression is stronger in бж. If kerned more tightly бж could perhaps actually connect? And бх could perhaps stay disconnected but with smaller gap?
в (ve-cy)
Connectors from the left come very close to в, but do not touch it. Is it intended?
вж has similar issue with large gap as бж described above.
г (ge-cy)
In Great Vibes the main stroke of г seem to have a similar (or very close) slope as verticals of another letters.
Usually it is more diagonal
ог ligature seems to break го connection.
Also I would not recommend ог connection from the bottom of о. I need to admit it looks somewhat exotic for cyrillic eyes. It would be better to connect from the higher point, like in ox.
фг and бг seem pretty loose in overall rhythm. They can connect, or perhaps just be kerned to not be connected but reduce the gap.
з (ze-cy)
This is less important than many of the things I'm describing in my review but I wonder if з could have a bit higher side bearing on the left, it seems to be pretty generous to me.
ж (zhe-cy) I described observations about ж connections above, while describing another letters, but I think it is worth to add one more thing. ж seems to be darker in text than I would expect and this impression is surely produced by thickness of three middle strokes. I would recommend lighting them. It is also worth checking other comment about this letter which I left [(https://github.com/googlefonts/great-vibes/issues/35)]
к (ka-cy)
The issue I found in ак with connection being pretty dense is presented in more pairs
гк дк зк ек ѐк ёк жк зк ик йк ѝк кк ќк лк мк нк пк рк ск тк ук ўк хк чк шк щк џк ык ѕк ікі їк јк ћк юк як
While бк pair seems on the tight side but still works pretty well, I think эк is too tight.
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I will keep posting my further observations about LC to LC connection in this issue as comments.