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Allow flow components to provide names via a string instead of river identifier #289

Open erikbaranowski opened 8 months ago

erikbaranowski commented 8 months ago

Request

There are some additional components to prometheus.exporter.blackbox that are using block labels as argument values. Review and update each that should receive a similar change to grafana/agent#5940.

Use case

River identifiers are fairly restrictive. https://grafana.com/docs/agent/next/flow/config-language/syntax/#identifiers

This prevents someone from having an otherwise valid target name like job-name and is a stumbling block when converting from static mode to flow mode since static mode does not have this restriction.

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rfratto commented 5 months ago

Have we considered making River labels less restrictive? They're only restricted because of Flow components, but that could be changed and we can move name validations to the Flow side.

(Sorry @hainenber I know you opened a PR for this proposal as mentioned but I think we need to be aware of alternatives before committing to the specific approach here)

hainenber commented 5 months ago

No worries, Robert. I'm open to proposals.

My (obviously biased) 2cent is that since we've already switched block labels for naming value for 1 of previous component, prometheus.exporter.blackbox and made it into past release, we should dedicate to the remaining cases.

Optionally, we can have a linter to detect and prevent usage of label block.

If River labels are unblocked, previous case should be reverted as well for conformity.

I have no hard stance on either way but feels like there's hidden contexts on how River labels are restricted in the past, thus making the previous PR acceptable for other folks.

rfratto commented 5 months ago

Consistency is definitely a good argument, even if we relax the restriction on River labels. But we should also generally be conscious about breaking change fatigue; I've heard a few concerns that the change for prometheus.exporter.blackbox alone was disruptive to a few deployments.

There might be a third option to avoid more breaking change fatigue:

I don't know if this is the right solution, but I wanted to suggest something to get the ball rolling. Ultimately we have to find a balance between consistency and not burning out users from breaking configurations too frequently.

ptodev commented 5 months ago

I personally like the idea using a string instead of a River identifier, for the reasons I mentioned in a comment:

  • It is more in line with how other blocks work too, such as the policy block in the tail sampler.
  • It is easier to document than using the block label.
  • With a target, the value could come form a component such as local.file. I'm not sure if this is possible with labels.

Using a River identifier looks somewhat cool though. If it was as practical as using a string, I'd have probably preferred it.

I agree that having a release or two when components can be configured in both ways would be nice. It'd allow users to upgrade and rollback without worrying about breaking changes. I hope it wouldn't be too hard to implement. The docs would also need to be clear about which option takes precedence.

hainenber commented 5 months ago

All good points there, Robert. Customer fatigue for breaking changes is definitely unwanted and potentially stop mass adoption 😭

Maybe we can create an issue on upstream grafana/river to explore the idea's feasibility. If not, we can sigh collectively and go with the current approach (maybe) :D