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grandwazir / BanHammer

BanHammer is a plugin for Bukkit that allows you to kick and ban players.
http://grandwazir.github.com/BanHammer
GNU General Public License v3.0
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(Suggestion) MAC IP adress ban #120

Open MithrandirCraft opened 9 years ago

MithrandirCraft commented 9 years ago

Hello. I would like to suggest an extra expulsion feature for this plugin.

Sometimes it just isn't enough whith an IP ban in order to block bad players. Some routers reset their network IP adress just whith a simple reset. Proxies and VPN's are also valid ways around the issue of getting banned from a server.

In fact, I've already suggested this in the past, but if it where possible to ban MAC IP adresses whith BanHammer, anyone could effectively block certain systems from entering the server. And MAC adresses are something people don't often modify or reset. So BanHammer would be providing a very effective tool against players who don't like playing by the rules.

In conclusion, Ban Hammer could benefit from some extra access denial features, and I personally suggest a MAC adress expulsion feature.

QueueAmI commented 9 years ago

MAC address banning won't work across the Internet. Every router replaces the MAC with its own as it forwards it. You can only get the MAC of the last router it passed through, most likely the one your computer is connected to. On Jun 18, 2015 6:26 AM, "Mithrandir" notifications@github.com wrote:

Hello. I would like to suggest an extra expulsion feature for this plugin.

Sometimes it just isn't enough whith an IP ban in order to block bad players. Some routers reset their network IP adress just whith a simple reset. Proxies and VPN's are also valid ways around the issue of getting banned from a server.

In fact, I've already suggested this in the past, but if it where possible to ban MAC IP adresses whith BanHammer, anyone could effectively block certain systems from entering the server. And MAC adresses are something people don't often modify or reset. So BanHammer would be providing a very effective tool against players who don't like playing by the rules.

In conclusion, Ban Hammer could benefit from some extra access denial features, and I personally suggest a MAC adress expulsion feature.

— Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub https://github.com/grandwazir/BanHammer/issues/120.

MithrandirCraft commented 8 years ago

@QueueAmI I never got to answer this, but I'm wondering about what effective ways I have in order to permanently ban users from joining with a new account.

QueueAmI commented 8 years ago

Right now, an IP ban is really your only option. We have to deal with this too and it's really annoying.

That said, I wonder if there's some client/computer information that could be grabbed from the client when they log in. Kind of the way Internet browsers work. If so, there might be something in there that could be used for a more permanent ban. On Jan 2, 2016 4:57 AM, "Mithrandir" notifications@github.com wrote:

@QueueAmI https://github.com/QueueAmI I never got to answer this, but I'm wondering about what effective ways I have in order to permanently ban users from joining with a new account.

— Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub https://github.com/grandwazir/BanHammer/issues/120#issuecomment-168388857 .

grandwazir commented 8 years ago

More importantly is that at the level that Java works you are not able to get at a client's MAC easily anyway.

To resolve this I did create an addon plugin to BanHammer called Alias. What this plugin did was record the names and IP addresses of players who logged in. It then used this information to automatically ban someone who logged in using a different account but from the same IP address. The ban it would issue would be the same as the original ban. It isn't perfect but does make it more difficult for someone to circumvent bans. If they change their IP address and try to login you would need to ban them again manually for the system to make the link. That might be what you are looking for.

MithrandirCraft commented 8 years ago

@grandwazir I don't really understand what your addon does.

For what I interpret with what you said, "Alias" blocks all players that login from an IP, once you have banned one of them... I could just search what other accounts are registred with the IP, and ban the ones I chose. It's not very usefull for when the player logs from another IP...

Yeah, it doesn't look perfect u_u

grandwazir commented 8 years ago

@MithrandirCraft You could do it manually as well. The main aim was to stop casual attackers. If someone is determined enough to change addresses after each time they are banned it would not help.

MithrandirCraft commented 8 years ago

@grandwazir Thank god what players hate most is losing their progress. :P

Just consider any solution you may find or think of :)