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Revise the Big Picture #1132

Closed chadwhitacre closed 6 years ago

chadwhitacre commented 6 years ago

The first half is actually pretty good still. Strategy is basically okay but wants some more detail. Customers should change. Not sure about org chart, but roadmap deserves better.

chadwhitacre commented 6 years ago

Making some good progress on strategy, but I think this work on estimating the market size of open source belongs in a blog post (referencing Sustain, #920) that we can link to from here and promote independently.

chadwhitacre commented 6 years ago

Draft blog post: https://gratipay.news/open-source-is-leaving-853b-on-the-table-9015eb7e293e

chadwhitacre commented 6 years ago

Gonna use these to estimate size of current value capture:

http://flossfoundations.org/foundation-directory https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_free_and_open-source_software_organizations

chadwhitacre commented 6 years ago

Actually, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_free_and_open-source_software_organizations links to other Wikipedia pages so it's hard to get links to the orgs themselves. Anyway the total capture is going to be negligible compared to the creation ... right? Let's do a quick estimation based on http://flossfoundations.org/foundation-directory and do a more thorough estimation if my expectation is way off base ...

chadwhitacre commented 6 years ago

Sad. Starting with OSI (first on list). Hard time finding a clear answer.

Oops. Not first on list but summing "major contributions 2016" yields 173,517.

chadwhitacre commented 6 years ago

Draft drafted: https://gratipay.news/open-source-captures-0-08-of-the-value-it-creates-leaving-852b-on-the-table-9015eb7e293e.

mattbk commented 6 years ago

I like the draft, although I'm sure people can quibble about numbers (glad you linked to the spreadsheet).

Wish the call to action could be stronger:

Our goal at Gratipay is to help the open source community capture more of the value it creates, by making it both socially and technically easy for companies to pay for open source. Want your company to be part of the solution? Drop me a line in email or Slack.

This is what we are working on:

making it both socially and technically easy for companies to pay for open source

Is that enough description to be useful, or is more detail needed? I just think people could skim this and say "yeah, yeah, we just need to put more money in," which is decidedly not the goal.

I looked around for a clear explanation on IG or Medium but didn't find one.

chadwhitacre commented 6 years ago

@mattbk I added links to the recent npm/package.json posts as examples. S'good?

I also took out Mozilla's search revenue ($500M/y down to 12) and did a little more clean up.

https://gratipay.news/open-source-captures-0-02-of-the-value-it-creates-leaving-852b-y-on-the-table-9015eb7e293e

I think I'm ready to go with this post. Any objections?

chadwhitacre commented 6 years ago

+1 from @mattbk in slack (scroll down? 😞 ).

Posted: https://twitter.com/Gratipay/status/894959004270686208.

chadwhitacre commented 6 years ago

There are 20M programmers in the world, so each would need a budget of $46,650/y to compensate the open source community for 100% of the value it creates.

chadwhitacre commented 6 years ago

If each has a budget of $1,200, that's $24B/y for open source.

chadwhitacre commented 6 years ago

Red Hat had revenues of $2B last year. To match that we need 2M programmers with $1k/y.

chadwhitacre commented 6 years ago

Another draft, for later I think: Dear Joel: How about a 13thΒ test?.

chadwhitacre commented 6 years ago

I think we would want to have https://github.com/gratipay/gratipay.com/issues/1153 in place before publishing that.

chadwhitacre commented 6 years ago

I'm 30% into a customers rewrite and then I look forward to getting to roadmap. Basically:

  1. give to package.json, w/ pledging
  2. open source perks

But perhaps we can flesh that out further?

chadwhitacre commented 6 years ago

Alright, actually I'm not going to really touch the org chart and roadmap. 😊

On the other hand, I added 9e6af7ea7ef9e5bec58be87dff9950c471146f68 about voting timelines reflecting our experience in #1123.

Ready for review, @Gratipay!

chadwhitacre commented 6 years ago

Rebased, was 9e6af7ea7ef9e5bec58be87dff9950c471146f68. Deployed to:

https://inside-gratipay-com-staging.herokuapp.com/

chadwhitacre commented 6 years ago

Main changes to look for:

The rest are more cosmetic/stylistic.

chadwhitacre commented 6 years ago

@clone1018 Can I get you to look at this? We actually need to vote since it affects big picture docs.

chadwhitacre commented 6 years ago

Rebased, was b87bfdee3e8387925457fb54711b8fb9595c780a.

chadwhitacre commented 6 years ago

Want to do another commit on this working in Ostrom as part of https://github.com/gratipay/inside.gratipay.com/issues/1160#issuecomment-329603695.

clone1018 commented 6 years ago

https://inside-gratipay-com-staging.herokuapp.com/big-picture/customers πŸ‘ https://inside-gratipay-com-staging.herokuapp.com/big-picture/mission πŸ‘ https://inside-gratipay-com-staging.herokuapp.com/big-picture/operating-agreement πŸ‘ https://inside-gratipay-com-staging.herokuapp.com/big-picture/strategy πŸ‘

All of these changes look good to me, my only comment was:

Do you think referencing values like $1T/yr devalues them? $1T/yr vs $1,000,000,000,000/yr Whenever I see you write like that I don't immediately understand the scale of it until I actually think about it

chadwhitacre commented 6 years ago

I think the consensus in slack is to leave as-is?

clone1018 commented 6 years ago

Yes I think so, let's worry about building a business that provides $1M/yr to open source :)