Closed chadwhitacre closed 9 years ago
It's interesting that we have to appeal to 2 user types: someone that gives and someone that takes. Why are you here, in the tagline, addressing only someone that takes?
I'm actually addressing the Team owner, which, qua Team owner, neither gives nor takes, but rather receives and distributes. Gratipay's customer is ~hannibal:
Anyways, what about adding recurring in there? I think it's a good idea too add it.
Yeah, maybe.
hm, interesting:
receive instead of take distribute instead of give
fair enough
I don't think payroll needs to be in there either.
@tshepang
~alice gives to The A Team. The A Team (owned/managed by ~hannibal) receives from ~alice. The A Team (owned/managed by ~hannibal) distributes to ~bob. ~bob takes from The A Team.
subject | verb | object |
---|---|---|
~alice | gives to | The A Team |
The A Team owned/managed by ~hannibal |
receives from | ~alice |
The A Team owned/managed by ~hannibal |
distributes to | ~bob |
~bob | takes from | The A Team |
subject | verb | object | |
---|---|---|---|
payment | ~alice | gives to | The A Team |
payment | The A Team owned/managed by ~hannibal |
receives from | ~alice |
payroll | The A Team owned/managed by ~hannibal |
distributes to | ~bob |
payroll | ~bob | takes from | The A Team |
~hannibal is our customer, and we offer him both payments and payroll.
I've very happy with these 4 words. We should try hard to stick with them.
:dancer:
"Giving" refers to payments from the ~user's, i.e., the giver's, point of view. "Receiving" refers to payments from the Team's, i.e., the receiver's, point of view. "Distributions" refers to payroll from the Team's, i.e., the distributor's, point of view. "Taking" refers to payroll from the ~user's, i.e., the taker's, point of view.
"Giving" refers to payments from the ~user's point of view.
"Receiving" refers to payments from the Team's point of view.
"Distributing" refers to payroll from the Team's point of view.
"Taking" refers to payroll from the ~user's point of view.
~hannibal is our primary customer. ~alice is ~hannibal's primary customer, and our secondary customer. ~bob is ~hannibal's employee (contractor, agent, co-owner, etc.), and our tertiary customer.
Okay! We seem to have converged, and I've deployed https://github.com/gratipay/gratipay.com/pull/3652, so with that, let's consider this ticket closed! :-)
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These terms should make their way into a Glossary: https://github.com/gratipay/inside.gratipay.com/issues/243.
"Teams" is still confusing nomenclature for people who are working alone. https://twitter.com/jelovirt/status/627178972460224512
We've started moving back towards "subscriptions" in some contexts at https://github.com/gratipay/gratipay.com/issues/3677#issuecomment-130799800.
We can start a GLOSSARY.md file as part of this repo to collect terms and definitions. Thoughts?
We can start a GLOSSARY.md file as part of this repo to collect terms and definitions. Thoughts?
I think it'd be better to update what we have on http://inside.gratipay.com/big-picture/sa/
@rohitpaulk I think we need something more like a shared document to facilitate the discussion of what the terminology should even be, as well as defining those terms, which would, once we reached a stable point, determine DB table renames etc., as well as provide the content for a glossary page on the site.
We can start a GLOSSARY.md file as part of this repo to collect terms and definitions. Thoughts?
We have a ticket for that: #243.
I think we need something more like a shared document
The .spt files are shared documents, no?
@whit537:
We have a ticket for that: #243.
OK, moving discussion there.
The .spt files are shared documents, no?
True, they can serve as such within Github about as well as a markdown file.
payment is not giving unless you pay what you want.
For payment you should have guarantee to get something in exchange (and governments protect and enforce this). For giving you can not assume you will receive anything. That's a big difference. Patreon is about giving, for example. I would not think about them as good as I have now if they were just about paying.
@techtonik isn't Patreon about guaranteeing something in exchange? I thought each donation was linked to some project... e.g. a song.
@tshepang Not necessarily. They now allow both models, though from their marketing and site copy you'd think the pegged-to-something model was it.
We call them
tips
,gifts
, andpayments
(at least). I think we should standardize onpayments
.