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Due date is Oct 4 ... 6 days!
@kaguillera is tentatively willing to apply together, he and I, as co-founders. We're thinking in terms of a non-profit application.
Need a one-minute video. We'll have to do that tomorrow afternoon.
We also need LOC for gratipay/gratipay.com. Anyone want to compute that? :-)
I reached out to the Teespring founders, after seeing their video as one of the examples. They are one of the few corporate givers extant on Gratipay 2.0.
The founder bio forms are almost as extensive as the main application.
I drafted some answers on the YC form. I don't like them. Gonna sleep on it and see what happens tomorrow ...
Heard back from Walker from Teespring and moved the conversation to private email. I will follow up when our application is ready for review.
Gotta work on numbers. We need percentage growth, not absolute growth.
Planning to go with 4, the rest are kinda fun though. :)
Okay! We have first drafts of the application and our bios. Outta time for today. We're planning to go over those again tomorrow and get something to Walker, and then to cowork again on Monday so we can incorporate feedback and get something submitted.
If you had any other ideas you considered applying with, please list them. One may be something we've been waiting for.
- On-demand allocation. Because we're radically transparent, we can publish requirements for every person on the "payroll", which is living_cost + amortization + savings. We can start from living_cost. Then we can show it the minimal living_cost criteria is met and let people fix that by changing their allocation scheme.
- 100 GP. Every week, every person gets 100 GP. which are their 100% to distribute among their friends and other people. You allocate how much do you give out monthly and it gets distributed among people who are valuable to you. This way, if some open source folks are bought by some company, that company can compensate the loss by donating weekly funds over the person's distribution graph.
Please tell us something surprising or amusing that one of you has discovered.
Lawyers can't give official advice in public even if client demands it.
Let's compute a team growth rate from the chart on stats:
We want a monthly growth rate.
211 - 144 = 67
/ 226 - 187 = 39
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1.718 teams / wk
x 4.333 wks / mo
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7.444 new teams / mo
/ 211 teams
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0.035
So call it 3.5% team growth right now.
Hey @kaguillera, we have an appointment Monday at 11 with @dowski (video call) to go over our application together.
@dowski Are we gonna live-stream that? π³ (Could go either way, up to you ...)
I love how it's leaping. "Ooh! Ooh! Pick me! Pick me!" π
https://github.com/AlDanial/cloc
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$ cloc --exclude-dir=env,node_modules,vendor .
716 text files.
643 unique files.
323 files ignored.
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SASS 52 182 12 3175
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Markdown 4 267 0 802
CSS 6 190 39 754
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DOS Batch 1 29 1 212
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$ cloc --exclude-dir=tests/py/fixtures .
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Use '--fullpath --not-match-d=REGEX' instead
Died at ./node_modules/.bin/cloc line 640.
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Blech.
$ cloc --exclude-dir=env,node_modules,vendor --exclude-lang=YAML .
716 text files.
643 unique files.
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Python 131 3617 3339 10894
JavaScript 37 2385 2413 10314
SASS 52 182 12 3175
SQL 9 226 128 930
Markdown 4 267 0 802
CSS 6 190 39 754
Bourne Shell 7 96 47 300
DOS Batch 1 29 1 212
make 2 38 11 120
Bourne Again Shell 1 3 1 7
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Okay, call it 50,000+ LOC.
Are we gonna live-stream that? π³ (Could go either way, up to you ...)
Per private email, we're not gonna live-stream.
What if standard practice in the tech industry were to give 1% of profits to open source?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_the_largest_information_technology_companies
The top 13 largest sum to 1.3 trillion in revenue.
Let's estimate 2x for the long tail, so 2.6 trillion in revenue for the industry as a whole.
Apple's profit margin is 40% and Amazon's is less than 3%. Let's estimate a 10% average. Actually, let's go with 7%.
So that's $182 B in annual profit.
If 1% went to open source, that'd be $1.82 billion in revenue for open source, or about the size of Red Hat.
We want to build the next Red Hat, but decentralized.
Okay!
!m @dowski π» π
We spent 20 minutes on a video call together. @dowski grilled us for most of it, a little interview role-playing. The interviews themselves are only 10 minutes long, clearly not enough time to get everything across. I guess mostly it's a chance to demonstrate that we're competent, that we understand what problem we're trying to solve and how we intend to solve it, that we're the experts on this problem.
Which we are.
It's a purse! We fill it with heart coins! π» π
https://www.etsy.com/listing/65838226/crochet-pattern-bugs-purse-cockroach-bee
Alright, last call. Getting ready to submit ...
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1O7PPVnnaK2ML6eNVgUwYiTbaNiqn92Gb3CZMufY1VqY/edit?usp=sharing
I think this section could be clearer. If I don't click that link and read even more, I have no idea what this hack is and how it solves this problem.
The new thing on the payin side is the hack that John Resig came up with for decentralizing Khan Academy's giving back in the day, which solves the problem of allocating a corporate budget across a heterogeneous technology stack: http://ejohn.org/blog/gittip-at-khan-academy/.
Reviewing http://www.ycombinator.com/howtoapply/ ...
@mattbk How about if we add some tl;drs?
tl;dr The developers inside the company each allocate a portion of the budget.
tl;dr The members of an open-source project each set their own salary.
Pinged Walker one last time.
The best way to do that is simply to be concise. You donβt have to sell us on you. Weβll sell ourselves, if we can just understand you. But every unnecessary word in your application subtracts from the effect of the necessary ones. So before submitting your application, print it out and take a red pen and cross out every word you donβt need. And in whatβs left be as specific and as matter-of-fact as you can.
Our app is more concise than Dropbox's. Too concise?
Who are all of the YC partners? Does it make sense to reach out to any of them on Twitter?
Meh, I guess let's not spam all of them. :-)
What order do you look at an application -- is the video last?
Video first, then the questions about the founders, then the idea, then the traction/revenue, then everything else.
https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=12593818
You no longer ask the question about what is a person's greatest achievement, which was previously said to be the most telling question on the app.
We do still ask that, and it's still one of the questions I read first. It's on the individual section (each person has to fill it out after the submitter enters their email address).
https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=12593801
When interviewing, what key points are you looking for?
- Determination
- Effectiveness
- Clarity of vision
- Clarity of communication
- Intelligence
- Quality of the idea
- Potential to be huge
https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=12593786
For non-profits, we're looking for large impacts on the world. A lot of the evaluation criteria--how good the founders are, how good the idea is--are the same.
Okay, did another round of tinkering on the application. I think I'm done tinkering for tonight ...
Early morning brainstorm: what is the room configuration? Chairs on opposite sides of a table? If so, here's how we make our entrance: wheel in the penny puncher and set the cockroach on top of it on a chair in front of the table, then take two chairs around to opposite sides of the table so we're sitting alongside the interviewers looking together at the cockroach.
The name of the cockroach is Gratipay. It's lovable. It's from Pittsburgh. Gratipay a marketplace, and it's been through a nuclear war called the Gratipocalypse. Now, the seller side is still intact, but the buyer side is rough. Is it worth trying to revive the buyer side?
Did some more tinkerooniatin'.
@kaguillera Can you review the application one more time today before we pull the trigger?
You need to remember that we only have 10mins and all that action would take time. Additionally the interviewer have a hectic day so we don't want to frustrate them. I agree we need something to make them remember us but we still need time to give them answers to questions they will have about our company.
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On Oct 4, 2016 10:17 AM, "Kwesi Aguillera" kaguillera@gmail.com wrote:
You need to remember that we only have 10mins and all that action would take time. Additionally the interviewer have a hectic day so we don't want to frustrate them. I agree we need something to make them remember us but we still need time to give them answers to questions they will have about our company.
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Okay, let's start planning and practicing our entrance next week.
Sound like a plan
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Okay, let's start planning and practicing our entrance next week.
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