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area rendering for civic/governmental/administrative services #2985

Open polarbearing opened 6 years ago

polarbearing commented 6 years ago

We should discuss how to render civic/civil/governmental/administrative/enforcement services, such as

In the discussion in #1624 some of them were included in "Societal amenities", however we are now using the societal yellow for kindergarten/school/university/college/hospital/community_centre/social_facility, which I consider a good grouping that should not be overloaden with more meanings. All these yellow areas are facilities that have in common to provide somehow direct care and service for their users. kocio-pl's arts_centres would still fit in this group. Thereby I close #2087.

Thus we might think of a different colour group for the facilities listed in this issue. It might reuse commercial colour or be something new.

kocio-pl commented 6 years ago

I would say this is still rather tough issue and we need some new hints and ideas.

Making arts_centre PR will be rather easy, so we could try it soon.

I guess we could resurrect #2519 - it's still similar both to hospital and clinic for me, and if they are societal, this is not less societal than them.

kocio-pl commented 6 years ago

amenity=police/fire_station (fixes #848)

What about light red background as in military area, but without any hatching? See also #2670 - we could render general uniformed services the same and leave hatching only for restricted areas of this type.

kocio-pl commented 6 years ago

I guess landuse=commercial is currently poorly defined and already general enough ("Such area may consists of offices, administration, laboratories, car repair stations, logisticks park, etc."), so this color should be used for any type of offices, like embassy/civic/governmental/administrative.

We have also some cultural institutions, like big museums (including open-air museums), theaters and so on, which are not about the offices. I guess we could experiment with some light brown (in general they exist in the different space context than farmlands, so it shouldn't be confusing).

Are there any other general categories which would need different background? Light blue might be used for some of them, as it's currently not used.

polarbearing commented 6 years ago

Yes #1624 was trying to categorise: touristic destinations (e.g. museum areas), accommodation (currently blue icons). We were also thinking about more colour outlines in some discussions.

The military red for police/fire_station would work for me. As they have icons, they are distinguishable.

I'm not so happy with landuse=commercial being used for those goventmental/administrative cases, but that is more an issue of the tagging being undecided.

HolgerJeromin commented 6 years ago

I guess we could experiment with some light brown (in general they exist in the different space context than farmlands, so it shouldn't be confusing).

https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/99171378#map=16/53.7746/8.6391 in brown could be farmland from the surrounding, but we have an icon already.

alexlancaster commented 1 month ago

I created PR #4983 that implements the colour light blue as per the current Tracestack Topo layer - which looks quite nice. It covers landuse=civic_admin and institutional, government, governmental, which all fall into the civic/government/admin service. It works quite well I think on Tracestack Topo, see:

And the US Federal buildings in DC south of the Mall:

(screenshots of the implementation in Carto are on the PR).