Update some icons

[Tomasz-W]

There are disussions about updating some of icons, but as they are going on in closed tickets. I'm opening new one for doing it properly.

• amenity=restaurant(https://github.com/gravitystorm/openstreetmap-carto/pull/3430): (fork + spoon) (fork + knife)

(current one: https://github.com/gravitystorm/openstreetmap-carto/blob/master/symbols/amenity/restaurant.svg)

• man=made=storage_tank/ silo(https://github.com/gravitystorm/openstreetmap-carto/issues/588):

(current one: https://github.com/gravitystorm/openstreetmap-carto/blob/master/symbols/man_made/storage_tank.svg)

• amenity=arts_centre (https://github.com/gravitystorm/openstreetmap-carto/pull/3401): (palette + note v1) (palette + note v2) (note + paint brush)

(current one: https://github.com/gravitystorm/openstreetmap-carto/blob/master/symbols/shop/art.svg)

[kocio-pl]

Regarding arts_centre - What about white mask (from theater) combined with palette instead of a note?

[Tomasz-W]

@kocio-pl I've tried and it didn't work, but I've made palette + note with bigger outline.

What do you think?

[kocio-pl]

Yes, I think it might work, I just need some real rendering to make sure.

[Tomasz-W]

Gist link for all icons: https://gist.github.com/Tomasz-W/4ebcb87699e6442d696f9c06ce16c31f

@Adamant36 Can you test them?

[Adamant36]

@Tomasz-W, sure. I'll do it sometime in the next couple of days.

[kocio-pl]

Great!

I would choose standard fork+knife for restaurants, fork+spoon might be useful in the future for some food-related objects.

[jeisenbe]

FYI, in Asia it is common to use spoons, and sometimes there are forks available, but knives are very rarely used by customers at restaurants.

Fork+Knife is very European / Western

But Google uses 🍴 for restaurants, so I suppose everyone understands this icon. On Sat, Oct 20, 2018 at 12:34 PM kocio-pl notifications@github.com wrote:

Great!

I would choose standard fork+knife for restaurants, fork+spoon might be useful in the future for some food-related objects.

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[kocio-pl]

Thanks for the comment, good to have someone having expertise with Eastern cultures! I would stay with spoon then to have some balance. We use a lot of Western conventions in OSM Carto and current symbol is well known already, so it will be just mirrored.

[Jez-C]

Now carto uses the palette on two icons, I disagree with using it on a third.

I think of arts centres providing teaching (dance/theatre/music/painting) and live performance, so agree with having a combined icon - I suggest a combination of half theatre mask + paint brush?

[Tomasz-W]

I prefer "fork + knife" version, but it's not so important thing for me, so I'll be ok also with "fork + spoon"

@Jez-C Shop palette is in shop-violet, gallery palette is in amenity-brown, and palette in arts centre would be only half-visible, so all of them would be easy distinguishable from each other. I've been trying with "mask + brush" and it didn't work.

[jidanni]

I assume new icons will still cover up addresses. https://github.com/gravitystorm/openstreetmap-carto/issues/3435

[matkoniecz]

I assume new icons will still cover up addresses. #3435

As it is obvious from the title this change is not intended to affect adresses. That is not a reason to mention one specific issue everywhere.

[Adamant36]

@Tomasz-W, should the icon for arts centre be applied to art shops and galleries also or just arts centre? I don't think art shops would have music, but galleries might.

[Tomasz-W]

@Adamant36 It's just for amenity=arts_centre.

[Tomasz-W]

In the topic about small changes of the icons: don't you think that historic=wayside_shine should be moved to amenity-brown? It usually has religious or/ and cultural values, so filling it with man-made-grey is a little bit like a visual reduction of these values. @kocio-pl @Adamant36 ?

[kocio-pl]

Sorry, I don't follow current discussions, but I thought that objects that are not directly usable and are mainly orientation points should be not brown. I believe most shrines are not "usable" (in a meaning of "interaction"), just like crosses.

[Adamant36]

@Tomasz-W, thanks. Uuumm I don't know about historic=wayside_shrine being amenity-brown or not. I don't have a good definition of what an amenity is (maybe its a European term?). Let alone what qualifies as man made or not.

I do think if we mix tags with colors from different tags to much it will make things way over complicated in the code though due to the way variables work.

[Adamant36]

arts centre restaurant fork and knife restaurant fork and spoon storage tank v3

[kocio-pl]

Arts centre looks good with a note, storage tanks are still recognizable for me and spoon version is nice too (knife is great and for the Western culture map I would choose it, but we try to consider other parts of the world if possible).

[geostonemarten]

I prefer "fork + knife" version, but it's not so important thing for me, so I'll be ok also with "fork + spoon"

@Jez-C Shop palette is in shop-violet, gallery palette is in amenity-brown, and palette in arts centre would be only half-visible, so all of them would be easy distinguishable from each other. I've been trying with "mask + brush" and it didn't work.

And why not hand or chopsticks ;-)

[Adamant36]

@Tomasz-W, are you good with the updated icons/fork and spoon?