What is the non-geek value of developer experience ?

[gadieichhorn]

Developer experience?

Not sure I am on right track with your initiative but I think developer experience is also critical for technology adoption.

Packages/frameworks that support productive workflows is winning the game for me.

• Hot reload
• Debug tools
• Continuous unit testing and integration tests
• Clear and meaningful feedback (i.e. not ambiguous or cryptic)

Examples/Reference:

• Webpack and Angular/Ionic for web stack.
• Docker
• Gradle continoues build

[tonit]

Well, for sure developer experience is a fundamental building block. With my company rebaze i've been consultiing in this area for some years. The question actually was meant somewhat ironic as it is (at times) a hard sell to non technical folks. So, this ticket is meant to get the real value of developer experience from CFO perspective for example.

As a whole, GreenDev is a lose initiate sparked in a twitter discussion to try to collect values in dev (like DevEx) and put them in a theme that can be understood as a whole by non tech people at best.

I'll comment on the document ticket too later. Just came back from a personal trip. Sorry for the delay.

[tonit]

I'll reframe the subject title.

[gadieichhorn]

Am I thinking too low level?

• Faster iteration on changes to requirements. Less is spent delivering new features.
• Better code quality. Fewer bugs lead to better customer experience
• Faster bug fixes. Customer retention

For a CFO it is like doing the accounts without spreadsheets. pen and paper and a calculator will work but is it a good experience for the accountant?

can be 50% more value sometimes when the tools make you work harder rather than working for you.

[ktor]

1. Improved employee retention. Nobody want's to leave a very well managed workplace,
2. Easier to hire new engineers by reference. Since your employees are more likely to recommend the company where development is top notch.
3. Easier to have an active conference speaker. When development process is good, it's easier to brag about it.
4. Easier to have an active technical blogger. Same reason as the point before.
5. Enables innovation. It is much easier to innovate in a cutting edge team.

[tonit]

Thanks @ktor, exactly. Though sometimes its still hard to let non digital-native organizations (NoDino) understand why DevEx is a thing. I feel:

• employee retention
• attractiveness to new employees
• speed of innovation sums it up. Its usually an easy sell to tech people, yet sometimes hard to sell to NoDino managers.

[fpapon]

What about the roles in organization?

For example:

• project manager vs technical leader

In many organization, project manager is most important than technical leader because projects are cost driven with a short time vision.