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Latin ecclesiastic hyphenation patterns and resources
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perendie #56

Closed wehro closed 5 years ago

wehro commented 5 years ago

The etymology of perendie is uncertain. So it should be hyphenated according to the general rules: pe-ren-di-e.

fradec commented 5 years ago

Jacobs give peremptus + dies. As peremptus comes from perimo (per +emo), I think we have to hyphenate per-en-di-e.

fradec commented 5 years ago

Depending on the rule followed, it will also take into account all the following words (derived or close in the dictionary):

only perenticida must have a classic hyphenation because it comes from pera + cædo.

wehro commented 5 years ago

Jacobs give peremptus + dies. As peremptus comes from perimo (per +emo), I think we have to hyphenate per-en-di-e.

I would not trust Jacob as the only source. This work is rather old and it often differs from other sources in difficult cases.

The ThLL (volume X.1, 1982–1997) says concerning the etymology:

cf. -diē adverbiorum ho-, cottī, postrī-diē etc.; pars prior peren- nondum explanata fere indicationem intervalli continere putatur, cf. e. g. theod. über-morgen; haud magis perspicitur adi. cognatum perendinus (vox prisca ? v. infra l. 63), neque coniunctio cum ἔνη adhuc potuit probari.

The etymological dictionary of Ernout/Meillet states:

De *peren-diē « le jour par delà » ; la comparaison de prīdiē, postrīdiē montre qu'il n'y a qu'un élément dans peren- et qu'on ne saurait le décomposer en *per-en-diē. Comme ho-diē, le premier élément peren- est un thème nu, normal dans un premier terme de composé.

I think these statements justify the hyphenation pe-ren-di-e.

wehro commented 5 years ago

Depending on the rule followed, it will also take into account all the following words (derived or close in the dictionary):

The word of this list belong to three different groups.

  1. All words containing perenn derive from per + annum without any doubt. So the hyphenation is per-en-nis etc.
  2. All words containing perend are cognate to perendie. The hyphenation should be pe-ren-die etc. as suggested above.
  3. perenticida is cognate to none of the other words. The hyphenation is pe-ren-ti-ci-da as you already stated.
fradec commented 5 years ago

Your explanation is clear and precise. So it's perfect, I correct the patterns. So, only words with 2 n keep the per- hyphenation.