[CLOSED] poll: Where should 30k GRC from various hacking attempts go

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Issue by tomasbrod Saturday Aug 26, 2017 at 20:57 GMT Originally opened as https://github.com/Erkan-Yilmaz/Gridcoin-tasks/issues/152

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Description: Use TomasBrod accumulated non small amount of real gridcoins from various exploit testing (note: not the 1M hack). Funding foundation with hacked coins may be concerning. Burning increases scarcity and may help price of GRC.

Options:

• Burn them.
• The foundation
• Public Faucet
• Use as development bounties
• Rain, based on mag at the time of the hacks
• Abstain

Notes: Please reword and modify or add options as you wish. Also @gridcoin now asked me to return to foundation, not that I don't want to, but some users in Slack raised concerns that funding the Foundation might not be clean / fair / good for PR.

The Rain option requires significantly more work to execute than the other options. Dumping to the faucet seems as pretty close and easy alternative to rain.

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Comment by bryhardt Saturday Aug 26, 2017 at 21:35 GMT

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I would assume the hacked coins would have been distributed via POR? Therefore they could be distributed via project rain?

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Comment by MagixInTheAir Monday Aug 28, 2017 at 09:53 GMT

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What about using them as bounties for important gridcoin tasks ? It would reward people who work towards making grc better

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Comment by Lenni Monday Aug 28, 2017 at 10:28 GMT

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I agree with @MagixInTheAir Everyone would profit from a better Wallet. Also 30k spread among all the researchers and investors, would only be a few Gridcoins for the individual.

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Comment by 3ullShark Monday Aug 28, 2017 at 10:28 GMT

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I would like to see them burnt but how do we prove no one has access to the burn address.

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Comment by tomasbrod Monday Aug 28, 2017 at 17:12 GMT

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The burn address is S67nL4vELWwdDVzjgtEP4MxryarTZ9a8GB. If there is private key for this address, then we have a serious problem.

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Comment by tomasbrod Monday Aug 28, 2017 at 17:17 GMT

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I did not add "Rain" option, as I don't know how to do a proper rain. Giving them as development bounties is little absurd, but hey, added as option. Also added Abstain option.

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Comment by 3ullShark Monday Aug 28, 2017 at 18:20 GMT

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I don't like the idea of raining it. Why should big crunchers get GRC that shouldn't really exist? Or should it exist? Did generating that GRC reduce the amount generated for researchers?

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Comment by denravonska Monday Aug 28, 2017 at 19:04 GMT

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I am all for raining on crunchers. Fetch the superblock before the time of the hack and use that as a base of distruting. Exclude kikipope.

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Comment by dc7dgrid Monday Aug 28, 2017 at 19:17 GMT

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Using as bounties for development would help all of Gridcoin the most I think, raining would only help the big ones.

If a burn address would be needed, I would have one here: SDoNotSendYourCoinsHereXXxxxw598fo

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Comment by MagixInTheAir Monday Aug 28, 2017 at 20:38 GMT

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@tomasbrod Why do you think using as dev bounties would be absurd ?

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Comment by tomasbrod Monday Aug 28, 2017 at 21:31 GMT

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Added: The Rain option requires significantly more work to execute than the other options. Dumping to the faucet seems as pretty close and easy alternative to rain.

@MagixInTheAir I can't explain it.

You see? We can't reach a consensus here in the comments. That is why a poll is for.

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Comment by MagixInTheAir Monday Aug 28, 2017 at 21:37 GMT

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:+1: for a poll

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Comment by Erkan-Yilmaz Tuesday Aug 29, 2017 at 03:44 GMT

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I've created the poll now (14 days duration), see

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Comment by 3ullShark Tuesday Aug 29, 2017 at 07:01 GMT

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There is another option. Let Tomas keep it since he fixed he spotted and fixed the exploit.

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Comment by denravonska Tuesday Aug 29, 2017 at 07:28 GMT

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@3ullShark @tomasbrod will be paid by the hour for the work done.

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Comment by QuaxEros Tuesday Aug 29, 2017 at 16:21 GMT

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@tomasbrod: May we know what your personal preference is, and can you motivate it? edit: (And thnx @denravonska for the poll's url)

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Comment by denravonska Tuesday Aug 29, 2017 at 16:26 GMT

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@QuaxEros He already voted Burn+Faucet. See here: https://gridcoinstats.eu/poll/where_should_30k_grc_from_various_hacking_attempts_go_to?

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Comment by gridcoin Wednesday Aug 30, 2017 at 12:48 GMT

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I thought he hacked 70,000 grc total? What is the total?

If these coins are burnt, someone has to check the txid to ensure they went there. I like dc7ds burn address. Btw, the client can make a burn address also (but no need to do that as we have one above).

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Comment by tomasbrod Tuesday Sep 05, 2017 at 07:59 GMT

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The poll ended today with 62.916% (23M4) for Burn, 28.7653% (10M7) for Bounties. I am very satisfied for how the poll ended. I expected higher votes for the Faucet/Rain and much lower for Bounties. I will be sending the Trx later today.

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Comment by tomasbrod Tuesday Sep 05, 2017 at 08:16 GMT

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Burn Transaction: 21b432

and extra donate from my own grc: 5d099c

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Comment by Erkan-Yilmaz Tuesday Sep 05, 2017 at 17:37 GMT

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poll result here