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Improvement: Node segment initialization visualization handling #5

Closed BlueAndi closed 9 years ago

BlueAndi commented 9 years ago

The specification says

It is recommended that some visual indication is shown to indicate success. A blinking green led that turns steady green after a node has got its nickname is the recommended indication. If there is a response for all addresses a failure condition is set (segment full) and the node goes to sleep.

If the node waits for user interaction regarding starting the initialization, the LED will be off. If you are sitting in front of serveral nodes, which node is waiting, which node is in error state or really off?

Proposal: The LED is blinking slowly in case of waiting for the user to start the initialization. During the node discovery blink fast and after a successful discovered nickname, stay on.

What do you think?

grodansparadis commented 9 years ago

Hi Andreas,

good suggestions and I have something like this on some of my nodes.
Something that is really needed on CAN based nodes is indication for bus warnings and bus off. This cause a lot of problems in the live world. My next generation of boards will have a multicolor led or rgb led with more posibilities for error indication. The spec just recommend a minimum. I think we all should do and implement what we need above that.

Andreas Merkle skrev den 2015-05-15 14:32:

The specification says

It is recommended that some visual indication is shown to indicate
success. A blinking green led that turns steady green after a node
has got its nickname is the recommended indication. If there is a
response for all addresses a failure condition is set (segment
full) and the node goes to sleep.

If the node waits for user interaction regarding starting the initialization, the LED will be off. If you are sitting in front of serveral nodes, which node is waiting, which node is in error state or really off?

Proposal: The LED is blinking slowly in case of waiting for the user to start the initialization. During the node discovery blink fast and after a successful discovered nickname, stay on.

What do you think?

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mamac commented 9 years ago

I though about the status led today and wondered if it was possible to drive the led with a pwm so user can set the intensity of the led.

My nodes have blue leds and are quite powerfull (only 300 ohms resistor behind). Would be good if I could dim it a bit... The whole house turns blue during the night :-) On May 15, 2015 3:34 PM, "Åke Hedman" notifications@github.com wrote:

Hi Andreas,

good suggestions and I have something like this on some of my nodes. Something that is really needed on CAN based nodes is indication for bus warnings and bus off. This cause a lot of problems in the live world. My next generation of boards will have a multicolor led or rgb led with more posibilities for error indication. The spec just recommend a minimum. I think we all should do and implement what we need above that.

Andreas Merkle skrev den 2015-05-15 14:32:

The specification says

It is recommended that some visual indication is shown to indicate success. A blinking green led that turns steady green after a node has got its nickname is the recommended indication. If there is a response for all addresses a failure condition is set (segment full) and the node goes to sleep.

If the node waits for user interaction regarding starting the initialization, the LED will be off. If you are sitting in front of serveral nodes, which node is waiting, which node is in error state or really off?

Proposal: The LED is blinking slowly in case of waiting for the user to start the initialization. During the node discovery blink fast and after a successful discovered nickname, stay on.

What do you think?

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BlueAndi commented 9 years ago

@grodansparadis Maybe we increase the minimum recommendation to make peoples life easier and at least having a similar feeling with any kind of vscp nodes.

@mamac Yes, you can use a PWM to dim them in your "blue" house. Greetings from "Blue"Andi ;-)

grodansparadis commented 9 years ago

Of course you can. Why not?

mamac skrev den 2015-05-15 18:20:

I though about the status led today and wondered if it was possible to drive the led with a pwm so user can set the intensity of the led.

My nodes have blue leds and are quite powerfull (only 300 ohms resistor behind). Would be good if I could dim it a bit... The whole house turns blue during the night :-) On May 15, 2015 3:34 PM, "Åke Hedman" notifications@github.com wrote:

Hi Andreas,

good suggestions and I have something like this on some of my nodes. Something that is really needed on CAN based nodes is indication for bus warnings and bus off. This cause a lot of problems in the live world. My next generation of boards will have a multicolor led or rgb led with more posibilities for error indication. The spec just recommend a minimum. I think we all should do and implement what we need above that.

Andreas Merkle skrev den 2015-05-15 14:32:

The specification says

It is recommended that some visual indication is shown to indicate success. A blinking green led that turns steady green after a node has got its nickname is the recommended indication. If there is a response for all addresses a failure condition is set (segment full) and the node goes to sleep.

If the node waits for user interaction regarding starting the initialization, the LED will be off. If you are sitting in front of serveral nodes, which node is waiting, which node is in error state or really off?

Proposal: The LED is blinking slowly in case of waiting for the user to start the initialization. During the node discovery blink fast and after a successful discovered nickname, stay on.

What do you think?

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grodansparadis commented 9 years ago

Hi,

Specifications are specifications. I which everyone have some indication that a node is discovering a nickname and that it is active. From there everyone can use there imagination. To specify evey little detail just make people doing the opposit anyway. I mean most can't even agree on a common bitrate even today.

So if things are possible even without changing the specification I think it can stay as it is. If not. Well then it can be worth a change.

/Ake

Andreas Merkle skrev den 2015-05-15 18:54:

@grodansparadis https://github.com/grodansparadis Maybe we increase the minimum recommendation to make peoples life easier and at least having a similar feeling with any kind of vscp nodes.

@mamac https://github.com/mamac Yes, you can use a PWM to dim them in your "blue" house. Greetings from "Blue"Andi ;-)

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BlueAndi commented 9 years ago

I know what you mean. Thought it may help, as it helped me ... thererfore decided to push a request.