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gtav-ent / GTAV-EnhancedNativeTrainer

GTA V PC Enhanced Native Trainer
http://gtaforums.com/topic/789786-vrelwip-enhanced-native-trainer
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Closing this repository, moving to closed-source model #103

Closed gtav-ent closed 9 years ago

gtav-ent commented 9 years ago

Hi,

Unfortunately a number of other modders have decided not to respect the minimal restrictions we have, namely that (a) if you fork the project, change the name, and (b) if you use the code, your work must be open source.

Our other contributors have mostly gone away, so the open source element is not working well any more, and I'm tired of seeing the hours I put in get turned over to people who use my work to abuse GTA Online, which was never the intention. Therefore my plan is to close the repository and continue any work on my own in private.

However, other people have contributed to this project, or may wish to do so, so I'm interested to hear your views before I wipe the repository.

You have until 9th July to raise any comments or objections.

Milk-Man commented 9 years ago

Sad to see the best open source mod shut down because of online cheaters, however I guess I'll fork the project (and change the name of course) and continue work on it if you do decide to take this down.

gtav-ent commented 9 years ago

You're welcome to do that of course, but I am going to keep working on it. I'm also happy to find ways to keep working collaboratively, just not in full public view. Getting involved with that probably makes more sense overall than splitting off a fork.

A few people have made a mess of this, the most notable one being a group that produces a trainer specifically aimed at griefing online and actually sells a version of it. They've used this as a base. Hopefully you can understand how that's not really what I want to be contributing towards, especially when the rewards of open source (other people contributing and being able to run with it when I'm not here) really aren't paying any dividends at this point. I can't stop what's already been done, but I can stop donating more hours to it.

gtav-ent commented 9 years ago

One possibility is that I just pay the GitHub fees ($7/mo) and change this project to private, although I'll only do that if there's going to be someone besides me likely to contribute work!

LubomirGeorgiev commented 9 years ago

https://bitbucket.org/ has an unlimited free private repository service.

benjibobs commented 9 years ago

Yeh, you could have a private bitbucket repo, and then add those who request access (as well as taking some contact details). That way you can track who has access and do what you wish if they break the licence's terms.

gtav-ent commented 9 years ago

Yeah, I saw that BitBucket offers a free private repo, and aside from paying the fees, that probably works best.

tdmike commented 9 years ago

Do you still need a private repo? I have several free spots, I wont be contributing just yet since I need to pay attention to school but I will in the future.

FIying-Scotsman commented 9 years ago

This is by far the best open-source menu I've ever seen. I've even learnt quite a lot from it.

I'd love for this to remain open-source (It's a great source to look at on how natives are called etc), so I'd recommend using BitBucket's private Repo and only handing it out to certain users etc.

I feel, if this source becomes closed, the authors of griefing menus have overall won as they won't have just ruined Online but they would have ruined the community's attempt at coming together and making a menu.

ohohohoo commented 9 years ago

My only wish or request should you decided to close this repository and go to a closed source; please increase the save time from game_frame_num 1000 into something higher like 10000 or more because saving too often is overkill for something that doesn't change that often or rarely change.

An option to disable automatic saving and a button to allow the users to manually save the settings would be great. But if that is too much please consider increasing the current 1000 frame into something higher.

gtav-ent commented 9 years ago

Why? What's the justification? Do you think you're seeing slowdown or something?

ohohohoo commented 9 years ago

As for slowdown i don't see it (well i do see slowdown but i'm not sure whether it was caused by this or not). But in my humble opinion the trainer writes too much to hdd although i/we rarely change the trainer options.

For example in my case after i enabled invincibility, no reload and other features that i think necessary for me to have fun in game; i never change that values anymore and only open the trainer menu just to spawn a vehicle (saved vehicle or non saved vehicle).

Because of that i don't think it's necessary to writes that often to hdd because the data itself rarely change. So i'd hope that you'd consider this. Thanks :).

Finally here's what process monitor output:

Using higher save time by increasing game_frame_num

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gtav-ent commented 9 years ago

Yes, but your usage pattern isn't everyone else's. The database is being written to about once every 50 seconds in your case (e.g. 7:59:49, 8:00:39) - the multiple underlying writes per operation are because it's a wholly file-based database.

If I made it ten minutes, then people would complain that their settings weren't being saved, or apparently randomly saved. Not going to happen.

The right answer would be to only save any time the values had actually changed, but tracking this is a load of work. Either way, this has nothing to do with this GitHub issue, so raise another one if you like.

ohohohoo commented 9 years ago

Ah yes i'm sorry for not creating a new ticket for this because i just recently started playing GTAV again after not touching it for more than a month, and when i saw about you're going to shut down this repo on 7th July (which is 2 days before the planned shut down on 9th) i choose to post it here instead rather than making a new ticket because the repo will be gone.

Anyway, since it's 9th July here before you close this repo i hope that you'd consider an option to disable automatic save and allow us to save manually instead because increasing saving time is not possible due to people having different usage patterns or saving whenever the values had changed would be a lot of work for you.

Also, thanks for creating such a wonderful trainer for GTAV :).

tdmike commented 9 years ago

So do you still need a private repository or do you already have one ?

shaneallgeier commented 9 years ago

One of your reasons for going closed source was a lack of pull requests. If you do move to a closed-source (or a private repo only handed out to a select few), then you can pretty much guarantee even less PRs than we get now.

A smaller audience means that you're less likely to attract attention from the code stealers/online cheaters, but it also means that you're less likely to attract attention from the people who have cool ideas for features (and the skills to implement those features).

gtav-ent commented 9 years ago

Agreed Shane, but unfortunately the only pull requests in the last three weeks have been yours. The audience is driven primarily by the public profile of the trainer, although I agree that barriers to access will put potential authors off.

Tdmike, I'm OK thanks, I will pay the GitHub fees so as to get continuity for a while. Using someone else's slot is complicated in terms of ownership, although thanks for the offer!

qaisjp commented 9 years ago

I think this can be closed now (now a private repository)