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Artwork: An icon for the applet. #201

Open GoogleCodeExporter opened 9 years ago

GoogleCodeExporter commented 9 years ago 
We need an icon for the applet.

Any ideas?

Original issue reported on code.google.com by rainwood...@gmail.com on 15 Dec 2008 at 3:03

GoogleCodeExporter commented 9 years ago 
What do you think about the attached one?

Original comment by lviggi...@gmail.com on 15 Dec 2008 at 1:05

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GoogleCodeExporter commented 9 years ago 
It can sit as a place holder. We definitely need one with more meaning, and a 
svg file.

Original comment by rainwood...@gmail.com on 15 Dec 2008 at 7:25

GoogleCodeExporter commented 9 years ago 
We may launch some kind of a contest on the forum thread, or ask DJPeng to 
launch a
contest by taking advantage of the Mac4Lin release ?

Original comment by pierre.s...@gmail.com on 11 Jan 2009 at 8:36

GoogleCodeExporter commented 9 years ago 
I don't yet think we have a sufficiently large user base for a contest.

Look at the brainstorm counter as an indicater?

Original comment by rainwood...@gmail.com on 11 Jan 2009 at 8:44

GoogleCodeExporter commented 9 years ago 
That's why I was thinking of using the Mac4Lin userbase.
But you're right, we may risk to get someone coming with something crappy and be
forced to accept it...
Putting that problem on hold then.

Original comment by pierre.s...@gmail.com on 11 Jan 2009 at 8:51

GoogleCodeExporter commented 9 years ago 
What do you think about this? (see attach).
We can also make a customized one for xfce.

Original comment by lviggi...@gmail.com on 12 Jan 2009 at 7:46

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GoogleCodeExporter commented 9 years ago 
Problem: when zoomed in the foot is unreadable.

Original comment by rainwood...@gmail.com on 12 Jan 2009 at 3:32

GoogleCodeExporter commented 9 years ago 
Is this better? (attached is also how it appears in the "Add to Panel" window.
I'm going to add the source file for the icon in svn too.

Original comment by lviggi...@gmail.com on 12 Jan 2009 at 4:00

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GoogleCodeExporter commented 9 years ago

Original comment by pierre.s...@gmail.com on 12 Jan 2009 at 4:42

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GoogleCodeExporter commented 9 years ago 
is that a proposal for the icon?

Original comment by lviggi...@gmail.com on 12 Jan 2009 at 6:20

GoogleCodeExporter commented 9 years ago 
Yours is better.

Original comment by pierre.s...@gmail.com on 12 Jan 2009 at 6:25

GoogleCodeExporter commented 9 years ago 
It's nice also yours... :)

Original comment by lviggi...@gmail.com on 12 Jan 2009 at 6:35

GoogleCodeExporter commented 9 years ago 
Yes this time it is readable. added to the svn?

Original comment by rainwood...@gmail.com on 12 Jan 2009 at 8:56

GoogleCodeExporter commented 9 years ago 
Yes, The source is in svb too (applet/globalmenu.fla - flash 8 file).

Original comment by lviggi...@gmail.com on 12 Jan 2009 at 9:13

GoogleCodeExporter commented 9 years ago 
...svn (not svb - typo :( )

Original comment by lviggi...@gmail.com on 12 Jan 2009 at 9:14

GoogleCodeExporter commented 9 years ago 
Would you also make an XFCE icon in xfce directory with the mouse?

Original comment by rainwood...@gmail.com on 12 Jan 2009 at 10:31

GoogleCodeExporter commented 9 years ago 
Added in 2064 (attached here is also the icon)

Original comment by lviggi...@gmail.com on 13 Jan 2009 at 7:00

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GoogleCodeExporter commented 9 years ago 
eerrrr an APPLE shape might be nice ;)

Original comment by methan...@gmail.com on 23 Jan 2009 at 9:32

GoogleCodeExporter commented 9 years ago 
An apple shape will ruin all the efforts to avoid being involved with 
'mac'cloning
controversy.

Original comment by rainwood...@gmail.com on 23 Jan 2009 at 10:52

GoogleCodeExporter commented 9 years ago 
Something tangoish?
Those icons are not consistent

Original comment by andrea.c...@gmail.com on 25 Jan 2009 at 9:28

GoogleCodeExporter commented 9 years ago 
That's actually the thing we'd like. 
The idea is to be as Gnome-compliant as possible in order to be included 
mainstream.

Do you have any idea as to what we could choose as an icon ?

Original comment by pierre.s...@gmail.com on 25 Jan 2009 at 1:34

GoogleCodeExporter commented 9 years ago 
I've create a quick icon (attached), use it if you like. I'm not sure about the 
GNOME
foot, it is nice and fits well, but it may cause problems with licenses.

Here > http://img4.imageshack.us/img4/3162/ggmappletselect.png is a screenshot 
of the
applet selector in gnome.

Original comment by kraft.se...@gmail.com on 22 Feb 2009 at 12:28

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GoogleCodeExporter commented 9 years ago 
Issue 354 has been merged into this issue.

Original comment by pierre.s...@gmail.com on 23 Feb 2009 at 2:50

GoogleCodeExporter commented 9 years ago 
Hi, great job so far guys! The project is gaining more support and becoming 
more stable.

This one is an interesting issue so I thought I'd contribute a bit. Attached is 
a
Tango-compliant svg icon for the applet. I think the arrow (instead of GNOME 
logo)
tells a better story of what the applet does.

What do you guys think?

Original comment by ald...@gmail.com on 25 Feb 2009 at 1:20

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GoogleCodeExporter commented 9 years ago 
i did an small modification, so it looks more like a window

Original comment by sl.solaris@gmail.com on 25 Feb 2009 at 1:37

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GoogleCodeExporter commented 9 years ago 
That's also an option that might work. Even better if the window is detached 
and look
more realistic.

I made another one around the same theme. This time it's .png in a whopping 
512x512
pixels. Even though GNOME has no use for it :-) Well, just to illustrate the 
point.

Anyway, think with me for a second. My core idea that i wanted to convey was 
that the
icon, with its bare minimum objects, should tell the user that upon activation, 
the
applet will relocate the menubar in a given window to a different container. In 
this
case somewhere outside and upwards, hence the arrow.

Well for my own learning experience, "Global", "Menu" and "Bar" are three 
difficult
words to illustrate effectively in a 48x48 pixels canvas without resorting to 
literal
depictions. :-)

Any thoughts?

Original comment by ald...@gmail.com on 25 Feb 2009 at 4:47

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GoogleCodeExporter commented 9 years ago 
Hi, I lkie the idea (especially the latest one) however if you stretch it down 
to
32x32 (which is the size it will appear in the "Add applet" box) it becomes 
totally
unreadable.
May I suggest you o try plying a bit with object and sizes to make it readable 
even
at smaller sizes? perhaps if you move the black arrow a little bit downwards 
and cut
the menu bar a bit on the right side it might be better...

Original comment by lviggi...@gmail.com on 25 Feb 2009 at 6:29

GoogleCodeExporter commented 9 years ago 
I agree, good idea, but the last icon is defently to much "mac".

Original comment by kraft.se...@gmail.com on 25 Feb 2009 at 2:05

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GoogleCodeExporter commented 9 years ago 
Would it be possible to have a look at would it would be with the menu already 
detached ?

Original comment by pierre.s...@gmail.com on 25 Feb 2009 at 2:13

GoogleCodeExporter commented 9 years ago 
You can test it yourself  if you like. Just 
convert the svg into a png file and drop 
it into the /32x32/apps directory of 
your "hicolor" icon theme.

Original comment by kraft.se...@gmail.com on 25 Feb 2009 at 3:51

GoogleCodeExporter commented 9 years ago 
It was not about installing, it was about something more like this (and less 
mac-like)

Original comment by pierre.s...@gmail.com on 25 Feb 2009 at 4:11

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GoogleCodeExporter commented 9 years ago 
hello i like this one but without the gnome icon, it makes it look bad

Original comment by sl.solaris@gmail.com on 25 Feb 2009 at 4:27

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GoogleCodeExporter commented 9 years ago 
yeah it's definitely too mac-ish :-) Don't worry though, it was just for 
illustration
purpose. That kind of icon might be more popular with the Mac4Lin community. :-)

I can try and make one with the menu detached.

However, the question remains, the greatest challenge is how to make the icon
self-explaining with just 48x48 canvas to work with. Now it seems that an 
arrow, a
menu and a window is too much 'clutter' to fit in that 48x48 constraint.
Good example: the icon for 'Battery Charge Monitor' applet has only one object: 
a
battery. That's already self-explaining in itself, no need for other objects.

Anyone got any other metaphor besides my idea?

some keywords: document-centric paradigm, menubar, desktop, panel, window, menu
items, mouse pointer, fitt's law, ...

Eventhough it's mainly targeted for GNOME, i hope that the icon won't have a 
GNOME
logo in it because: (1) at small sizes it's unrecognizable (2) doesn't really 
help
explaining the purpose of the applet (3) specific distros or other DE like Xfce 
would
probably like their own logo in it, so staying neutral is a virtue here.

I think setting this issue for milestone 1.0 was indeed a good idea :-) It's not
exactly easy.

Original comment by ald...@gmail.com on 25 Feb 2009 at 4:40

GoogleCodeExporter commented 9 years ago 
Here's what pierre probably had in mind, with some emphasis.

Original comment by ald...@gmail.com on 25 Feb 2009 at 6:17

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GoogleCodeExporter commented 9 years ago 
i like the last one

Original comment by sl.solaris@gmail.com on 25 Feb 2009 at 11:10

GoogleCodeExporter commented 9 years ago 
Hi, I like that too.I think we're going into the right direction
However guys please keep in mind that the icon will be shown in most cases at
32x32,so it would be better to optimize your ideas for that particular size...
Thanks

Original comment by lviggi...@gmail.com on 26 Feb 2009 at 6:39

GoogleCodeExporter commented 9 years ago 
OK. Some alternatives. I removed the arrow and try slightly different approach. 
Let's
see which one from the three works best.

Original comment by ald...@gmail.com on 27 Feb 2009 at 12:36

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GoogleCodeExporter commented 9 years ago 
I like the version "4-gnome-globalmenu-32", but it could look a little bit more
tangoish in my opinion. Attached is a try based on my first icon...

Original comment by kraft.se...@gmail.com on 27 Feb 2009 at 7:11

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GoogleCodeExporter commented 9 years ago 
Great job! :-) That one fits right at home among other Tango! icons.

Original comment by ald...@gmail.com on 27 Feb 2009 at 10:46

GoogleCodeExporter commented 9 years ago 
i agree too, that last one is the prefect one, but i think we could replace 
colors,
to orange "Human" maybe, to make it look perfect

Original comment by sl.solaris@gmail.com on 28 Feb 2009 at 4:23

GoogleCodeExporter commented 9 years ago 
Do you want to change the blue of the titlebar or the color of the arrow? I 
guess the
blue is okay, because most of the window relevant icons use a blue titlebar 
(from the
hicolor, gnome, and tango icon themes), so there is a better recognition.

Original comment by kraft.se...@gmail.com on 28 Feb 2009 at 3:09

GoogleCodeExporter commented 9 years ago 
Is it ready to be incorporated into the 0.7.4 release?
I am planning to slip the bugs and do it in a few days; because there has 
already
been very little changes in the trunk for one week.

Original comment by rainwood...@gmail.com on 2 Mar 2009 at 5:09

GoogleCodeExporter commented 9 years ago 
I like the idea but personally I'm still not so happy about how it looks at the 
moment.
Why don't we put all proposals on a place where user can vote their favorite?

Original comment by lviggi...@gmail.com on 2 Mar 2009 at 6:47

GoogleCodeExporter commented 9 years ago 
i vote yp for the last one

Original comment by sl.solaris@gmail.com on 2 Mar 2009 at 3:24

GoogleCodeExporter commented 9 years ago 
Attached are the versions from 16x16 - scalable incl. sources.

Original comment by kraft.se...@gmail.com on 2 Mar 2009 at 8:17

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GoogleCodeExporter commented 9 years ago 
Any hints on how and where to install these icons with the project?

Original comment by rainwood...@gmail.com on 7 Mar 2009 at 6:24

GoogleCodeExporter commented 9 years ago 
I'm not really sure if this is what you're asking for, but i put them into
'/usr/share/icons/hicolor/apps/<iconsize>/globalmenu.<png/svg>', works fine.

Original comment by kraft.se...@gmail.com on 8 Mar 2009 at 3:10

GoogleCodeExporter commented 9 years ago 
What about xdg-icon-resource? How much is it available?
I am worrying if we directly install to that location some distos won't be 
happy.

But I am also worrying if we use xdg-icon-resource some other distos won't be 
happy
because the tool is not installed.

Anyways if everyone here is satisfied with the icon i'll push it into 0.7.5.

Original comment by rainwood...@gmail.com on 8 Mar 2009 at 6:59

GoogleCodeExporter commented 9 years ago 
Too late to be included in 0.7.5. Scheduling for 0.7.6

Original comment by rainwood...@gmail.com on 24 Apr 2009 at 2:06