[Enhancement] Consider recommending super-skaterhax over bb3 for N3DS 11.16

[TheMasterOfMike]

With nimdsphax now being a thing, I do believe it would be fair to consider that the currently recommended pathway for N3DS 11.16 could lead to overall more confusion (or run into more issues) than super-skaterhax.

Right now, the pathway for N3DS 11.16 currently is: Seedminer -> bb3 -> menuhax67 -> nimdsphax

This has several issues that could come up:

• The system could be unmineable (which would make this not a viable pathway, and while unmineable’s do eventually get recommended super-skaterhax anyways, why do this extra effort)
• The system could have potentially had CFW uninstalled without removing present DSiWare, which would break the DSiWare Management menu (and by extension, bb3)
• While not necessarily an actual issue (and more of a user error case), the extra steps of removing menuhax67 could be missed (this absolutely can happen), and regardless, it’s overall more complex to install and then uninstall menuhax67 rather than just entering into HBL once via the browser

Yes, super-skaterhax does have pretty bad reliability, but imo the bad reliability is a more than acceptable trade-off (especially now given nimdsphax) given the many more potential “failure points” or “user error points” that one could run into compared to super-skaterhax

[Gruetzig]

have you heard of the update nag

[Gruetzig]

actually where did that go

[TheMasterOfMike]

have you heard of the update nag

it doesn't exist for 11.16, no, I have no idea why (probably related to korean and the others having 11.16 as latest)

Also, if it did exist, then we'd (probably) have to Mii Mine, rather than do normal Seedminer

[Gruetzig]

well I know friend list is usable because it wasnt updated in 11.16->11.17(but 11.15->11.16), but browser data was updated, seems like that doesnt count, didnt know that.

[Gruetzig]

especially with the issues we have right now regarding bb3.bin from the injector having no menuhax options and people using that instead of the one from the release, Id also say bannerbomb3 < super-skaterhax currently

[TheMasterOfMike]

Also even if Nin was to decide “let’s actually block 11.16 from using the browser”

• This shouldn’t apply to Korea (unless 11.17 comes to Korea)
• If super-skaterhax is made the prioritized method, there is zero benefit from 11.16 over 11.17 with regards to that, so you could just do what N3DS 11.14/11.15 already does and update to 11.17

Also (not related to the above) this would technically also allow for very very minor cleanup, as it would allow the merging of the Updating Firmware and Updating Firmware (KOR) pages. I just remembered 11.15 KOR O3DS exists… I love weird edge cases

[lifehackerhansol]

If 11.16 is supported I would rather users stay on 11.16 for the off chance that bhax doesn't work as nicely for them (it is a bit of a complicated exploit), then users have the option of BB3 still, whereas on 11.17 you're stuck bruteforcing bhax until it works.

11.14 and 11.15 we update N3DS because, like, do you really want to subject users to mii mining? But normal seedminer isn't an exploit that takes 3 hours to complete.

The overall idea isn't bad, though.