configuration Gui will not change to reflect my battery/batteries

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configuration Gui will not change to reflect my battery/batteries #40

Closed david1944 closed 9 years ago

david1944 commented 9 years ago

Every time I try to change an element in the Gui it doesn't ha[[en. THree scenarios:- 1) Two battery holders AAA non rechargeable. 2) Two PP3 non rechargeable, and 3) one rechargeable PP3 180mAh NiMH (favoured for two projects I'm working on .. a robot vehicle to carry maplin arm, and a static crane made of balsa with a duty cycle reduction to make the winch motor and gears run slowly. All is ready for battery power, but it doesnlt work. My scenario - Attached MoPi OK,. B+ powered up via mains and monitored on Windows 7 PC via command line and xrdp. Call cli and write sudo mopi. Config Gui comes up. The only key that seems to work is the 'tab' and that does nothing except move the screens on. At the end of config the cli has not changed, Tried starting by using cli and rpi does not recognise /usr/main/mopicli etc.for rechargeable battery (-wc1 1 9600 72 6335 5740) . Help please.

hamishcunningham commented 9 years ago

hi David,

Can we break this down a bit? First problem is that the "mopi" UI should work :-)

The UI uses the same tool as the RPi's own configuration utility, so if ours doesn't work it suggests that either we're not connected via a usable terminal interface or that the simbamond software installation is corrupted. I'd say the former is most likely.

Things to try:

run raspi-config over the same terminal and see if that works
connect a monitor and keyboard and log in to the console; does it work now?
if not, reinstall simbamond: sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get purge simbamond; sudo apt-get install simbamond

Good luck, let me know how you get on!

Best

Hamish

david1944 commented 9 years ago

Date: Wed, 22 Apr 2015 01:12:26 -0700 From: notifications@github.com To: pi-tronics@noreply.github.com CC: puddle247@hotmail.co.uk Subject: Re: [pi-tronics] configuration Gui will not change to reflect my battery/batteries (#40)

hi David,

Can we break this down a bit? First problem is that the "mopi" UI should work :-)

Things to try:

run raspi-config over the same terminal and see if that works connect a monitor and keyboard and log in to the console reinstall simbamond: sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get purge simbamond; sudo apt-get install simbamond

Good luck, let me know how you get on!

Best

Hamish

— Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub. Iv'e done all that and more. Ilve searched high and low on Raspi to find the file that the config is saved to. Short answer ;Canlt find it any where in Raspi. If this is indeed the case then I cannot amend a file which is not on my microsdh card. Purged and re-installed. Updated and upgraded. Changed batterrie to ones with very nearly 9 volts, (they are ex fire alarms that have had little or no use)OK so have I had ant sucess. Yes measured. 2 batteries reading 8.7 volts lit mopi like blackpool illuminations - BUT - only got as far as the login request.2nd trial was with an Adafruit tft screen. Baclkight shiny and new, loaded perfectly, logged on and then - It shut down? What was different from yesterday's failures is simple. I tinned all four connections and they now fit into the terminal block. The two black double-up, I think, is less secure and more fiddly that having four terminals. I'm considering joining them outside Pi and only having one wire inserted into the mid terminal.The whole problem comes back down to amending config, which Ilm sorry to say still does not work. I've tried it through xrdp in windows; Ilve tried it with keyboard and minitor attached to raspi. I'm now going to try Putty but I donlt see it making any difference. So here goes.......nochange. When I put up status report there is a screen behind it which looks as though amndment has worked, but normal shows your default. Ireally don't know where to go fom here. Ilve bought a new charger and will soon have 8 AA rechargeables to try. While Ilm waiting I'll make a balso wood box to collect them in with external connection wired to one plu and one minus.. Catch you later. Have a good day.

hamishcunningham commented 9 years ago

the config is saved into simbamond.default -- does that help? did you get the UI to work? if so what did it report when you ran the configuration steps? tnx h

On 23 April 2015 at 12:02, david1944 notifications@github.com wrote:

Date: Wed, 22 Apr 2015 01:12:26 -0700 From: notifications@github.com To: pi-tronics@noreply.github.com CC: puddle247@hotmail.co.uk Subject: Re: [pi-tronics] configuration Gui will not change to reflect my battery/batteries (#40)

hi David,

Can we break this down a bit? First problem is that the "mopi" UI should work :-)

The UI uses the same tool as the RPi's own configuration utility, so if ours doesn't work it suggests that either we're not connected via a usable terminal interface or that the simbamond software installation is corrupted. I'd say the former is most likely.

Things to try:

run raspi-config over the same terminal and see if that works connect a monitor and keyboard and log in to the console reinstall simbamond: sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get purge simbamond; sudo apt-get install simbamond

Good luck, let me know how you get on!

Best

Hamish

— Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub. Iv'e done all that and more. Ilve searched high and low on Raspi to find the file that the config is saved to. Short answer ;Canlt find it any where in Raspi. If this is indeed the case then I cannot amend a file which is not on my microsdh card. Purged and re-installed. Updated and upgraded. Changed batterrie to ones with very nearly 9 volts, (they are ex fire alarms that have had little or no use)OK so have I had ant sucess. Yes measured. 2 batteries reading 8.7 volts lit mopi like blackpool illuminations - BUT - only got as far as the login request.2nd trial was with an Adafruit tft screen. Baclkight shiny and new, loaded perfectly, logged on and then - It shut down? What was different from yesterday's failures is simple. I tinned all four connections and they now fit into the terminal block. The two black double-up, I think, is less secure and more fiddly that having four terminals. I'm considering joining them outside Pi and only having one wire inserted into the mid terminal.The whole problem comes back down to amending config, which Ilm sorry to say still does not work. I've tried it through xrdp in windows; Ilve tried it with keyboard and minitor attached to raspi. I'm now going to try Putty but I donlt see it making any difference. So here goes.......nochange. When I put up status report there is a screen behind it which looks as though amndment has worked, but normal shows your default. Ireally don't know where to go fom here. Ilve bought a new charger and will soon have 8 AA rechargeables to try. While Ilm waiting I'll make a balso wood box to collect them in with external connection wired to one plu and one minus.. Catch you later. Have a good day.

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david1944 commented 9 years ago

hi David,

Can we break this down a bit? First problem is that the "mopi" UI should work :-)

Things to try:

Good luck, let me know how you get on!

Best

Hamish

— Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub.

Hello Hamish,It's bad news I'm afraid. I cannoitget the config UI to work. I tried all you said and it half worked and then collapsed. In the final death throws I decided that my new micro 16gb could be sacrificed in the cause. I loaded Noobs, did my config entries, changed my password and then updated, re-booted and upgraded, rebooted again and install simbamond, rebooted once more and loaded mopi. Got the config UI and attemted to alter it. NBG -was not having it. Found mopicli and had a good look but iy didnlt lead me anywhere. I cannot see a way around it. I tried putty and no change. I haven't loaded xrdp yet. I canlt find 8 AAA rechargeables onmly 6, and that cannot work with what seems to be a concreted configuration.. I will keep trying anything you suggest.Best wishes,David.

hamishcunningham commented 9 years ago

What happens with raspi-config? When you say "doesn't work" what's the specific behaviour? On 23 Apr 2015 9:14 pm, "david1944" notifications@github.com wrote:

Date: Wed, 22 Apr 2015 01:12:26 -0700 From: notifications@github.com To: pi-tronics@noreply.github.com CC: puddle247@hotmail.co.uk Subject: Re: [pi-tronics] configuration Gui will not change to reflect my battery/batteries (#40)

hi David,

Can we break this down a bit? First problem is that the "mopi" UI should work :-)

The UI uses the same tool as the RPi's own configuration utility, so if ours doesn't work it suggests that either we're not connected via a usable terminal interface or that the simbamond software installation is corrupted. I'd say the former is most likely.

Things to try:

run raspi-config over the same terminal and see if that works connect a monitor and keyboard and log in to the console reinstall simbamond: sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get purge simbamond; sudo apt-get install simbamond

Good luck, let me know how you get on!

Best

Hamish

— Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub.

Hello Hamish,It's bad news I'm afraid. I cannoitget the config UI to work. I tried all you said and it half worked and then collapsed. In the final death throws I decided that my new micro 16gb could be sacrificed in the cause. I loaded Noobs, did my config entries, changed my password and then updated, re-booted and upgraded, rebooted again and install simbamond, rebooted once more and loaded mopi. Got the config UI and attemted to alter it. NBG -was not having it. Found mopicli and had a good look but iy didnlt lead me anywhere. I cannot see a way around it. I tried putty and no change. I haven't loaded xrdp yet. I canlt find 8 AAA rechargeables onmly 6, and that cannot work with what seems to be a concreted configuration.. I will keep trying anything you suggest.Best wishes,David.

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david1944 commented 9 years ago

Date: Thu, 23 Apr 2015 14:18:28 -0700 From: notifications@github.com To: pi-tronics@noreply.github.com CC: puddle247@hotmail.co.uk Subject: Re: [pi-tronics] configuration Gui will not change to reflect my battery/batteries (#40)

Raspi-config works perfectly both on the old 'card' and on the new. On the old one I specifically changed my password to make sure it worked. On the new one I've done all the things it is usual to do.Changed password, enabled camera, and the advanced options including i2C. Specifics follow:- sudo mopi return up comes the configuration UI. Change the power supplies no1 return, Option 2, non-rechargeable enter (it didn't feel as though it had changed) Taken sraight to next screen choose 6 cells for PP3 return (it didn't change the position of the marker from 8 cells) taken to next screen, chemistry alkaline return (same comment-it didn't change} taken to final screen where the results are shown and you're asked to confirm if they are correct. Well they were incorrect. They show the same basic data that you put into your command line equation. Important points being NiMh should be alkaline, and the four calculations 11200,10000, 8800, and 8000. This means that the config hasn't been (1) amended and (2) that the calculations would not allow PP3's to work without going quickly into criticak and stop. so to finish off, press yes and then OK and back to main screen to do battery no2 . Same results What would I expect to see on each config screen? A question to confirm the change and then (perhaps) a next button, to take you to the next screen.

I tried the command line instruction and was replied with - something like- bash no such command. I wondered if I should be editing a line in mopicli, but no, /usr/main/mopicli -wc1 1 9600 7200 6336 5760 only produced a new file, so I pressed cirl x and returned to $prompt.

As to my remote monitor, keyboard and mouse. I use a dos command line with mstsc.exe and the ip address of raspi. On raspi all I have to do is to install xrdp. The service runs sesman and links directly into LXDE Gui unlike putty and ssh which only links to the raspberry's command line.

David

What happens with raspi-config?

When you say "doesn't work" what's the specific behaviour?

On 23 Apr 2015 9:14 pm, "david1944" notifications@github.com wrote:

Date: Wed, 22 Apr 2015 01:12:26 -0700

From: notifications@github.com

To: pi-tronics@noreply.github.com

CC: puddle247@hotmail.co.uk

Subject: Re: [pi-tronics] configuration Gui will not change to reflect my

battery/batteries (#40)

hi David,

Can we break this down a bit? First problem is that the "mopi" UI should

work :-)

The UI uses the same tool as the RPi's own configuration utility, so if

ours doesn't work it suggests that either we're not connected via a usable

terminal interface or that the simbamond software installation is

corrupted. I'd say the former is most likely.

Things to try:

run raspi-config over the same terminal and see if that works

connect a monitor and keyboard and log in to the console

reinstall simbamond: sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get purge simbamond;

sudo apt-get install simbamond

Good luck, let me know how you get on!

Best

Hamish

—

Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub.

Hello Hamish,It's bad news I'm afraid. I cannoitget the config UI to work.

I tried all you said and it half worked and then collapsed. In the final

death throws I decided that my new micro 16gb could be sacrificed in the

cause. I loaded Noobs, did my config entries, changed my password and then

updated, re-booted and upgraded, rebooted again and install simbamond,

rebooted once more and loaded mopi. Got the config UI and attemted to alter

it. NBG -was not having it. Found mopicli and had a good look but iy didnlt

lead me anywhere. I cannot see a way around it. I tried putty and no

change. I haven't loaded xrdp yet. I canlt find 8 AAA rechargeables onmly

6, and that cannot work with what seems to be a concreted configuration.. I

will keep trying anything you suggest.Best wishes,David.

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hamishcunningham commented 9 years ago

"it didn't change the position of the marker" -- how are you trying to control the UI? arrow keys plus tab and space and so on? tnx h

On 24 April 2015 at 00:21, david1944 notifications@github.com wrote:

Date: Thu, 23 Apr 2015 14:18:28 -0700 From: notifications@github.com To: pi-tronics@noreply.github.com CC: puddle247@hotmail.co.uk Subject: Re: [pi-tronics] configuration Gui will not change to reflect my battery/batteries (#40)

Raspi-config works perfectly both on the old 'card' and on the new. On the old one I specifically changed my password to make sure it worked. On the new one I've done all the things it is usual to do.Changed password, enabled camera, and the advanced options including i2C. Specifics follow:- sudo mopi return up comes the configuration UI. Change the power supplies no1 return, Option 2, non-rechargeable enter (it didn't feel as though it had changed) Taken sraight to next screen choose 6 cells for PP3 return (it didn't change the position of the marker from 8 cells) taken to next screen, chemistry alkaline return (same comment-it didn't change} taken to final screen where the results are shown and you're asked to confirm if they are correct. Well they were incorrect. They show the same basic data that you put into your command line equation. Important points being NiMh should be alkaline, and the four calculations 11200,10000, 8800, and 8000. This means that the config hasn't been (1) amended and (2) that the calculations would not allow PP3's to work without going quickly into criticak and stop. so to finish off, press yes and then OK and back to main screen to do battery no2 . Same results What would I expect to see on each config screen? A question to confirm the change and then (perhaps) a next button, to take you to the next screen.

I tried the command line instruction and was replied with - something like- bash no such command. I wondered if I should be editing a line in mopicli, but no, /usr/main/mopicli -wc1 1 9600 7200 6336 5760 only produced a new file, so I pressed cirl x and returned to $prompt.

As to my remote monitor, keyboard and mouse. I use a dos command line with mstsc.exe and the ip address of raspi. On raspi all I have to do is to install xrdp. The service runs sesman and links directly into LXDE Gui unlike putty and ssh which only links to the raspberry's command line.

David

What happens with raspi-config?

When you say "doesn't work" what's the specific behaviour?

On 23 Apr 2015 9:14 pm, "david1944" notifications@github.com wrote:

Date: Wed, 22 Apr 2015 01:12:26 -0700

From: notifications@github.com

To: pi-tronics@noreply.github.com

CC: puddle247@hotmail.co.uk

Subject: Re: [pi-tronics] configuration Gui will not change to reflect my

battery/batteries (#40)

hi David,

Can we break this down a bit? First problem is that the "mopi" UI should

work :-)

The UI uses the same tool as the RPi's own configuration utility, so if

ours doesn't work it suggests that either we're not connected via a usable

terminal interface or that the simbamond software installation is

corrupted. I'd say the former is most likely.

Things to try:

run raspi-config over the same terminal and see if that works

connect a monitor and keyboard and log in to the console

reinstall simbamond: sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get purge simbamond;

sudo apt-get install simbamond

Good luck, let me know how you get on!

Best

Hamish

—

Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub.

Hello Hamish,It's bad news I'm afraid. I cannoitget the config UI to work.

I tried all you said and it half worked and then collapsed. In the final

death throws I decided that my new micro 16gb could be sacrificed in the

cause. I loaded Noobs, did my config entries, changed my password and then

updated, re-booted and upgraded, rebooted again and install simbamond,

rebooted once more and loaded mopi. Got the config UI and attemted to alter

it. NBG -was not having it. Found mopicli and had a good look but iy didnlt

lead me anywhere. I cannot see a way around it. I tried putty and no

change. I haven't loaded xrdp yet. I canlt find 8 AAA rechargeables onmly

6, and that cannot work with what seems to be a concreted configuration.. I

will keep trying anything you suggest.Best wishes,David.

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david1944 commented 9 years ago

Date: Fri, 24 Apr 2015 00:13:07 -0700 From: notifications@github.com To: pi-tronics@noreply.github.com CC: puddle247@hotmail.co.uk Subject: Re: [pi-tronics] configuration Gui will not change to reflect my battery/batteries (#40)

?space? That was the missing element. I have now amended the UI but it still goesn't boot. Might be a battery problem so will try with another pair, another pair until I get success. I'll let you know what happens and many thanks. Hmm SPACE. never thought of that. David.

"it didn't change the position of the marker" -- how are you trying to

control the UI? arrow keys plus tab and space and so on?

tnx

On 24 April 2015 at 00:21, david1944 notifications@github.com wrote:

Date: Thu, 23 Apr 2015 14:18:28 -0700

From: notifications@github.com

To: pi-tronics@noreply.github.com

CC: puddle247@hotmail.co.uk

Subject: Re: [pi-tronics] configuration Gui will not change to reflect my

battery/batteries (#40)

Raspi-config works perfectly both on the old 'card' and on the new. On the

old one I specifically changed my password to make sure it worked. On the

new one I've done all the things it is usual to do.Changed password,

enabled camera, and the advanced options including i2C. Specifics follow:-

sudo mopi return

up comes the configuration UI.

Change the power supplies no1 return,

Option 2, non-rechargeable enter (it didn't feel as though it had changed)

Taken sraight to next screen choose 6 cells for PP3 return (it didn't

change the position of the marker from 8 cells)

taken to next screen, chemistry alkaline return (same comment-it didn't

change}

taken to final screen where the results are shown and you're asked to

confirm if they are correct. Well they were incorrect. They show the same

basic data that you put into your command line equation. Important points

being NiMh should be alkaline, and the four calculations 11200,10000, 8800,

and 8000.

This means that the config hasn't been (1) amended and (2) that the

calculations would not allow PP3's to work without going quickly into

criticak and stop.

so to finish off, press yes and then OK and back to main screen to do

battery no2

. Same results

What would I expect to see on each config screen? A question to confirm

the change and then (perhaps) a next button, to take you to the next screen.

I tried the command line instruction and was replied with - something

like- bash no such command. I wondered if I should be editing a line in

mopicli, but no, /usr/main/mopicli -wc1 1 9600 7200 6336 5760 only produced

a new file, so I pressed cirl x and returned to $prompt.

As to my remote monitor, keyboard and mouse. I use a dos command line with

mstsc.exe and the ip address of raspi. On raspi all I have to do is to

install xrdp. The service runs sesman and links directly into LXDE Gui

unlike putty and ssh which only links to the raspberry's command line.

David

What happens with raspi-config?

When you say "doesn't work" what's the specific behaviour?

On 23 Apr 2015 9:14 pm, "david1944" notifications@github.com wrote:

Date: Wed, 22 Apr 2015 01:12:26 -0700

From: notifications@github.com

To: pi-tronics@noreply.github.com

CC: puddle247@hotmail.co.uk

Subject: Re: [pi-tronics] configuration Gui will not change to reflect my

battery/batteries (#40)

hi David,

Can we break this down a bit? First problem is that the "mopi" UI should

work :-)

The UI uses the same tool as the RPi's own configuration utility, so if

ours doesn't work it suggests that either we're not connected via a

usable

terminal interface or that the simbamond software installation is

corrupted. I'd say the former is most likely.

Things to try:

run raspi-config over the same terminal and see if that works

connect a monitor and keyboard and log in to the console

reinstall simbamond: sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get purge simbamond;

sudo apt-get install simbamond

Good luck, let me know how you get on!

Best

Hamish

—

Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub.

Hello Hamish,It's bad news I'm afraid. I cannoitget the config UI to

work.

I tried all you said and it half worked and then collapsed. In the final

death throws I decided that my new micro 16gb could be sacrificed in the

cause. I loaded Noobs, did my config entries, changed my password and

then

updated, re-booted and upgraded, rebooted again and install simbamond,

rebooted once more and loaded mopi. Got the config UI and attemted to

alter

it. NBG -was not having it. Found mopicli and had a good look but iy

didnlt

lead me anywhere. I cannot see a way around it. I tried putty and no

change. I haven't loaded xrdp yet. I canlt find 8 AAA rechargeables onmly

6, and that cannot work with what seems to be a concreted

configuration.. I

will keep trying anything you suggest.Best wishes,David.

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hamishcunningham commented 9 years ago

:-)

the penalty for being compatible with very old tools like terminal emulators!

good luck

best h

On 24 April 2015 at 09:12, david1944 notifications@github.com wrote:

Date: Fri, 24 Apr 2015 00:13:07 -0700 From: notifications@github.com To: pi-tronics@noreply.github.com CC: puddle247@hotmail.co.uk Subject: Re: [pi-tronics] configuration Gui will not change to reflect my battery/batteries (#40)

?space? That was the missing element. I have now amended the UI but it still goesn't boot. Might be a battery problem so will try with another pair, another pair until I get success. I'll let you know what happens and many thanks. Hmm SPACE. never thought of that. David.

"it didn't change the position of the marker" -- how are you trying to

control the UI? arrow keys plus tab and space and so on?

tnx

h

On 24 April 2015 at 00:21, david1944 notifications@github.com wrote:

Date: Thu, 23 Apr 2015 14:18:28 -0700

From: notifications@github.com

To: pi-tronics@noreply.github.com

CC: puddle247@hotmail.co.uk

Subject: Re: [pi-tronics] configuration Gui will not change to reflect my

battery/batteries (#40)

Raspi-config works perfectly both on the old 'card' and on the new. On the

old one I specifically changed my password to make sure it worked. On the

new one I've done all the things it is usual to do.Changed password,

enabled camera, and the advanced options including i2C. Specifics follow:-

sudo mopi return

up comes the configuration UI.

Change the power supplies no1 return,

Option 2, non-rechargeable enter (it didn't feel as though it had changed)

Taken sraight to next screen choose 6 cells for PP3 return (it didn't

change the position of the marker from 8 cells)

taken to next screen, chemistry alkaline return (same comment-it didn't

change}

taken to final screen where the results are shown and you're asked to

confirm if they are correct. Well they were incorrect. They show the same

basic data that you put into your command line equation. Important points

being NiMh should be alkaline, and the four calculations 11200,10000, 8800,

and 8000.

This means that the config hasn't been (1) amended and (2) that the

calculations would not allow PP3's to work without going quickly into

criticak and stop.

so to finish off, press yes and then OK and back to main screen to do

battery no2

. Same results

What would I expect to see on each config screen? A question to confirm

the change and then (perhaps) a next button, to take you to the next screen.

I tried the command line instruction and was replied with - something

like- bash no such command. I wondered if I should be editing a line in

mopicli, but no, /usr/main/mopicli -wc1 1 9600 7200 6336 5760 only produced

a new file, so I pressed cirl x and returned to $prompt.

As to my remote monitor, keyboard and mouse. I use a dos command line with

mstsc.exe and the ip address of raspi. On raspi all I have to do is to

install xrdp. The service runs sesman and links directly into LXDE Gui

unlike putty and ssh which only links to the raspberry's command line.

David

What happens with raspi-config?

When you say "doesn't work" what's the specific behaviour?

On 23 Apr 2015 9:14 pm, "david1944" notifications@github.com wrote:

Date: Wed, 22 Apr 2015 01:12:26 -0700

From: notifications@github.com

To: pi-tronics@noreply.github.com

CC: puddle247@hotmail.co.uk

Subject: Re: [pi-tronics] configuration Gui will not change to reflect my

battery/batteries (#40)

hi David,

Can we break this down a bit? First problem is that the "mopi" UI should

work :-)

The UI uses the same tool as the RPi's own configuration utility, so if

ours doesn't work it suggests that either we're not connected via a

usable

terminal interface or that the simbamond software installation is

corrupted. I'd say the former is most likely.

Things to try:

run raspi-config over the same terminal and see if that works

connect a monitor and keyboard and log in to the console

reinstall simbamond: sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get purge simbamond;

sudo apt-get install simbamond

Good luck, let me know how you get on!

Best

Hamish

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Hello Hamish,It's bad news I'm afraid. I cannoitget the config UI to

work.

I tried all you said and it half worked and then collapsed. In the final

death throws I decided that my new micro 16gb could be sacrificed in the

cause. I loaded Noobs, did my config entries, changed my password and

then

updated, re-booted and upgraded, rebooted again and install simbamond,

rebooted once more and loaded mopi. Got the config UI and attemted to

alter

it. NBG -was not having it. Found mopicli and had a good look but iy

didnlt

lead me anywhere. I cannot see a way around it. I tried putty and no

change. I haven't loaded xrdp yet. I canlt find 8 AAA rechargeables onmly

6, and that cannot work with what seems to be a concreted

configuration.. I

will keep trying anything you suggest.Best wishes,David.

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david1944 commented 9 years ago

Now working although not quite enough power to get past login and password but I'm working on that. What's the absolute maximum power that the board will take? Thanks for your help and support. David Lake.

"it didn't change the position of the marker" -- how are you trying to

control the UI? arrow keys plus tab and space and so on?

tnx

On 24 April 2015 at 00:21, david1944 notifications@github.com wrote:

Date: Thu, 23 Apr 2015 14:18:28 -0700

From: notifications@github.com

To: pi-tronics@noreply.github.com

CC: puddle247@hotmail.co.uk

Subject: Re: [pi-tronics] configuration Gui will not change to reflect my

battery/batteries (#40)

Raspi-config works perfectly both on the old 'card' and on the new. On the

old one I specifically changed my password to make sure it worked. On the

new one I've done all the things it is usual to do.Changed password,

enabled camera, and the advanced options including i2C. Specifics follow:-

sudo mopi return

up comes the configuration UI.

Change the power supplies no1 return,

Option 2, non-rechargeable enter (it didn't feel as though it had changed)

Taken sraight to next screen choose 6 cells for PP3 return (it didn't

change the position of the marker from 8 cells)

taken to next screen, chemistry alkaline return (same comment-it didn't

change}

taken to final screen where the results are shown and you're asked to

confirm if they are correct. Well they were incorrect. They show the same

basic data that you put into your command line equation. Important points

being NiMh should be alkaline, and the four calculations 11200,10000, 8800,

and 8000.

This means that the config hasn't been (1) amended and (2) that the

calculations would not allow PP3's to work without going quickly into

criticak and stop.

so to finish off, press yes and then OK and back to main screen to do

battery no2

. Same results

What would I expect to see on each config screen? A question to confirm

the change and then (perhaps) a next button, to take you to the next screen.

I tried the command line instruction and was replied with - something

like- bash no such command. I wondered if I should be editing a line in

mopicli, but no, /usr/main/mopicli -wc1 1 9600 7200 6336 5760 only produced

a new file, so I pressed cirl x and returned to $prompt.

As to my remote monitor, keyboard and mouse. I use a dos command line with

mstsc.exe and the ip address of raspi. On raspi all I have to do is to

install xrdp. The service runs sesman and links directly into LXDE Gui

unlike putty and ssh which only links to the raspberry's command line.

David

What happens with raspi-config?

When you say "doesn't work" what's the specific behaviour?

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Date: Wed, 22 Apr 2015 01:12:26 -0700

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To: pi-tronics@noreply.github.com

CC: puddle247@hotmail.co.uk

Subject: Re: [pi-tronics] configuration Gui will not change to reflect my

battery/batteries (#40)

hi David,

Can we break this down a bit? First problem is that the "mopi" UI should

work :-)

The UI uses the same tool as the RPi's own configuration utility, so if

ours doesn't work it suggests that either we're not connected via a

usable

terminal interface or that the simbamond software installation is

corrupted. I'd say the former is most likely.

Things to try:

run raspi-config over the same terminal and see if that works

connect a monitor and keyboard and log in to the console

reinstall simbamond: sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get purge simbamond;

sudo apt-get install simbamond

Good luck, let me know how you get on!

Best

Hamish

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Hello Hamish,It's bad news I'm afraid. I cannoitget the config UI to

work.

I tried all you said and it half worked and then collapsed. In the final

death throws I decided that my new micro 16gb could be sacrificed in the

cause. I loaded Noobs, did my config entries, changed my password and

then

updated, re-booted and upgraded, rebooted again and install simbamond,

rebooted once more and loaded mopi. Got the config UI and attemted to

alter

it. NBG -was not having it. Found mopicli and had a good look but iy

didnlt

lead me anywhere. I cannot see a way around it. I tried putty and no

change. I haven't loaded xrdp yet. I canlt find 8 AAA rechargeables onmly

6, and that cannot work with what seems to be a concreted

configuration.. I

will keep trying anything you suggest.Best wishes,David.

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hamishcunningham commented 9 years ago

mopi can supply around 1A to the Pi, with input voltage between 6.2 and 20V the board itself doesn't draw much power in comparison to the Pi and its peripherals wrt batteries anything from a pp3 upwards will work, but you won't get much life with less than e.g. 6 AAs (and note that the capacity of these varies by almost an order of magnitude) more details e.g. here https://pi.gate.ac.uk/pages/mopi.html#section-6.2. hth h

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Date: Fri, 24 Apr 2015 00:13:07 -0700 From: notifications@github.com To: pi-tronics@noreply.github.com CC: puddle247@hotmail.co.uk Subject: Re: [pi-tronics] configuration Gui will not change to reflect my battery/batteries (#40)

Now working although not quite enough power to get past login and password but I'm working on that. What's the absolute maximum power that the board will take? Thanks for your help and support. David Lake.

"it didn't change the position of the marker" -- how are you trying to

control the UI? arrow keys plus tab and space and so on?

tnx

h

On 24 April 2015 at 00:21, david1944 notifications@github.com wrote:

Date: Thu, 23 Apr 2015 14:18:28 -0700

From: notifications@github.com

To: pi-tronics@noreply.github.com

CC: puddle247@hotmail.co.uk

Subject: Re: [pi-tronics] configuration Gui will not change to reflect my

battery/batteries (#40)

Raspi-config works perfectly both on the old 'card' and on the new. On the

old one I specifically changed my password to make sure it worked. On the

new one I've done all the things it is usual to do.Changed password,

enabled camera, and the advanced options including i2C. Specifics follow:-

sudo mopi return

up comes the configuration UI.

Change the power supplies no1 return,

Option 2, non-rechargeable enter (it didn't feel as though it had changed)

Taken sraight to next screen choose 6 cells for PP3 return (it didn't

change the position of the marker from 8 cells)

taken to next screen, chemistry alkaline return (same comment-it didn't

change}

taken to final screen where the results are shown and you're asked to

confirm if they are correct. Well they were incorrect. They show the same

basic data that you put into your command line equation. Important points

being NiMh should be alkaline, and the four calculations 11200,10000, 8800,

and 8000.

This means that the config hasn't been (1) amended and (2) that the

calculations would not allow PP3's to work without going quickly into

criticak and stop.

so to finish off, press yes and then OK and back to main screen to do

battery no2

. Same results

What would I expect to see on each config screen? A question to confirm

the change and then (perhaps) a next button, to take you to the next screen.

I tried the command line instruction and was replied with - something

like- bash no such command. I wondered if I should be editing a line in

mopicli, but no, /usr/main/mopicli -wc1 1 9600 7200 6336 5760 only produced

a new file, so I pressed cirl x and returned to $prompt.

As to my remote monitor, keyboard and mouse. I use a dos command line with

mstsc.exe and the ip address of raspi. On raspi all I have to do is to

install xrdp. The service runs sesman and links directly into LXDE Gui

unlike putty and ssh which only links to the raspberry's command line.

David

What happens with raspi-config?

When you say "doesn't work" what's the specific behaviour?

On 23 Apr 2015 9:14 pm, "david1944" notifications@github.com wrote:

Date: Wed, 22 Apr 2015 01:12:26 -0700

From: notifications@github.com

To: pi-tronics@noreply.github.com

CC: puddle247@hotmail.co.uk

Subject: Re: [pi-tronics] configuration Gui will not change to reflect my

battery/batteries (#40)

hi David,

Can we break this down a bit? First problem is that the "mopi" UI should

work :-)

The UI uses the same tool as the RPi's own configuration utility, so if

ours doesn't work it suggests that either we're not connected via a

usable

terminal interface or that the simbamond software installation is

corrupted. I'd say the former is most likely.

Things to try:

run raspi-config over the same terminal and see if that works

connect a monitor and keyboard and log in to the console

reinstall simbamond: sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get purge simbamond;

sudo apt-get install simbamond

Good luck, let me know how you get on!

Best

Hamish

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Hello Hamish,It's bad news I'm afraid. I cannoitget the config UI to

work.

I tried all you said and it half worked and then collapsed. In the final

death throws I decided that my new micro 16gb could be sacrificed in the

cause. I loaded Noobs, did my config entries, changed my password and

then

updated, re-booted and upgraded, rebooted again and install simbamond,

rebooted once more and loaded mopi. Got the config UI and attemted to

alter

it. NBG -was not having it. Found mopicli and had a good look but iy

didnlt

lead me anywhere. I cannot see a way around it. I tried putty and no

change. I haven't loaded xrdp yet. I canlt find 8 AAA rechargeables onmly

6, and that cannot work with what seems to be a concreted

configuration.. I

will keep trying anything you suggest.Best wishes,David.

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david1944 commented 9 years ago

Hello Hamish, I don't know whether you can help with this problem but I've puzzled over it for a long time (it seems long anyway). Ok install mopi on B= and run from batteries :- result:- sh: can't access tty: job control turned off. This comes up after rainbow screen. The recovery keys don't work. Only a green light shows on B=. type exit in sh and a statement comes up about 'killing kernal' and process of booting fails. Tried booting from mopi and yellow lights for both batteries and a green light . Green turns to red but mopoi doien't always turn off. When this happened first time I panicked and disconnected mopi which shutdown B+. I've bought another B+ but darenot use mopi with it in case same thing happens. All new sdhc cards( formatted, noob, asbian setup all work. One configured in new B+ and put into old B+ gives job error even when cmdline.txt is changed to avoid safe mode. Shorting has no effect. What can I try? David.

hamishcunningham commented 9 years ago

this post suggests a new firmware might help? http://raspberrypi.stackexchange.com/questions/19561/cant-access-tty-job-control-turned-off