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Scream discard at 2 or more clues #889

Closed Lel0uch-H closed 2 years ago

Lel0uch-H commented 2 years ago

The doc explicitly states that a scream discard is performed when the team is at 1 or less clues, while it might not always be true in practice.

Example:

Zamiell commented 2 years ago

The only way to save indego's hand is to scream

questionable decision, because you could be discarding a 5 and losing the game, and there are 2 copies of muddy rainbow 2

Zamiell commented 2 years ago

The only way to save melwen's hand is to scream

this is an edge case that is obvious to everyone at the table, the doc probably does not need to document this

Lel0uch-H commented 2 years ago

https://hanab.live/replay/728797#6

t6: indego gives me a clandestine finesse with nothing else to do on the board from her perspective. Hence I cannot have a 5 on chop.

Zamiell commented 2 years ago
  • In extremely rare situations, Scream Discards can also be performed if the team is at more than 2 clues and it is the only way to win the game. However, these situations are usually obvious when they are happening.

i think it is negative EV to add this to the doc. enumerating this doesn't really help anybody. it just confuses beginners. and it is superfluous information for experts.

Zamiell commented 2 years ago

/stale

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