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Ask: how about translations #27

Open tiye opened 3 years ago

tiye commented 3 years ago

I'm not sure but maybe I could translate several of the posts into Chinese for learning purpose. Do you have any source code for the Wiki posts? Markdown or something? It's not hosted on GitHub so no easy way to grab.

The page I'm particularly interested: http://wiki.haskell.org/IO_inside .

Anton-Latukha commented 3 years ago

The source code of wiki articles is hosted on the wiki.

The History tab leads to the version control. There is an Edit tab on all the wikis that leads to the source code.

MediaWiki engine (classical Wikis, as Wikipedia, Haskell Wiki), use Wiki markup syntax.

Wiki is a hidden realm.

Pandoc supports MediaWiki markup.

tiye commented 3 years ago

Login system is quite counterintuitive... now I finally managed to log in and got the text. Thanks for the hint. Luckily the syntax is still similar to Markdown.

Anton-Latukha commented 3 years ago

First Wiki is WikiWikiWeb - 1994. MediaWiki & Wikipedia - 2001. Git was invented in - 2005.

And Wikis were never created to manage them through manual source control version, the whole idea of them is that any people without the need of technical knowledge can edit the pages. Hawaiian wiki wiki is - ‘very quick’, then the meaning of the WikiWikiWeb speaks for itself.

tiye commented 3 years ago

Long history of Haskell!

I still prefer using GitHub when I want to maintain things.

Anton-Latukha commented 3 years ago

GitHub was founded in 2008. Haskell founded in 1990. So yes, long history of Haskell.

But the Haskell Wiki is actually a convenient place and resource.

The wiki engine GitHub provides - is laughable at its very best. GitHub wikis even do not allow to add pictures to them, the exploit hack needs to be used to trick GitHub into adding pictures there. If the page is renamed - all links to that page are broken, there are no transition possibility, I can keep counting the essentials lacking in GitHub wiki engine.

It is impossible to host a real, big, convenient, useful wiki on GitHub. Hosting just the source of the wiki articles on GitHub creates a contribution barrier between Wiki readers and making edits to the articles.

tiye commented 3 years ago

Yes GitHub has those problems. Actually I was thinking about using GitHub to maintain source code of the side https://github.com/reactjs/reactjs.org , rather than using GitHub Wiki.

Never mind... I have no indention to complain about the Wiki Haskell.org uses. Just it kept telling me I failed to log in and I was confused for many minutes. Being a Chinese developer using ClojureScript and TypeScript, I guess I would never contribute to English version of Haskell wiki.