Issues with FreeBSD 13 based builds

probonopd commented 3 years ago

We started doing FreeBSD 13 based builds again, mainly to see what is and is not yet working for us in FreeBSD 13.

This ticket is here to collect all such issues. Once all are solved, we may start consider using FreeBSD 13 as the base for the next release.

Positive

Intel GPU seems smoother, no tearing/flicker in Welcome animation
On a FreeBSD 13 based helloSystem ISO (which as everything needed on board), running some AppImages works this way (albeit with cosmetic fontconfig issues)

Showstoppers

[x] 0G35 Unbootable after installing. See below for workaround/fix
[x] How can we prevent the FreeBSD 13 bootloader from changing the screen resolution? On an UEFI based system (Acer Revo RL85) where the resolution was correct in FreeBSD 12, the FreeBSD 13 bootloader seemingly tries to be smart and change the resuolution with the effect that it is no longer the native resolution of the screen
[x] FreeBSD 13 seems to be using a different font in random sizes depending on screen resolution on the non-graphical console. (Seems to be a feature rather than a bug? https://reviews.freebsd.org/D27420?id=80964) See below for the fix
[x] Filer slow to start and shows extraneous disk icons, https://github.com/helloSystem/ISO/issues/195 (workaround: find a way to disable /usr/local/libexec/gvfs-udisks2-volume-monitor which turns out to be surprisingly difficult)
[x] Some packages are significantly larger for no clear reason in our 13 based ISO: git-lite grew by 10MB to 138%, py37-lxml grew by 20 MB to 341% of the size in the 12 based ISO; py37-sip, spidermonkey78, py37-qt5-widgets, qt5-webengine, libsoup all grew over 1MB. When using new-style Live ISO (without zfs) then the image sizes are more comparable, so acceptable now
[x] No sound on HDMI on Nvidia GPU (works on 12.2) (NVIDIA Corporation GM107 High Definition Audio Controller [GeForce 940MX]) (no longer an issue in latest new-style Live ISOs)
[x] 0G35 cannot boot on non-EFI systems (using install-boot.sh like GhostBSD does fixes this)
[x] network:/// stays empty
[ ] gvfs-fuse missing, https://bugs.freebsd.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=254452 (It is missing for 12.2 also, so it is not a 13.0 specific thing)
[x] Nvidia GPU not autodetected (Works now as of 0.7.0 (Build 0G48))

Issues

Some AppImages reproducably lead to a bad kernel crash and instant reboot

TargetGalaxy commented 3 years ago

"How can we prevent the FreeBSD 13 bootloader from changing the screen resolution? On an UEFI based system (Acer Revo RL85) where the resolution was correct in FreeBSD 12, the FreeBSD 13 bootloader seemingly tries to be smart and change the resuolution with the effect that it is no longer the native resolution of the screen"

You can add exec="mode 0" to /boot/loader.conf

grahamperrin commented 3 years ago

Showstoppers?

No sound on HDMI on Nvidia GPU …

Which driver?

Which release at the time?

Have you tested with the more recent release in ports?

There are also the releases from NVIDIA, which can be built and installed without reference to FreeBSD ports.

… a different font on the non-graphical console. How can we get back the orginal …

Given helloSystem avoidance of non-graphical consoles, this should not be a show-stopper.

Can you provide screenshots of what's required and what's different?

If not screenshots (from a virtual machine): photographs.

… Some packages are significantly larger … git-lite

Is any particular size a show-stopper? If so, why?

… py37-lxml …

Not specific to FreeBSD 13.⋯: given the switch to 3.8 https://cgit.freebsd.org/ports/tree/UPDATING?id=210ee04dd3c3f2e82cd3130e412866a182066859#n8 as the default for python3 and python, more than four months ago, I recommend focusing instead on py38⋯.

Issues

https://sourceforge.net/projects/scribus/files/scribus-devel/1.5.6.1/scribus-1.5.6.1-linux-x86_64.AppImage/download?target=_blank … lead to a bad kernel crash and instant reboot

Superior version 1.5.7_5 is packaged for FreeBSD:13:amd64:

https://www.freshports.org/print/scribus-devel/#packages

Some AppImages …

Please identify another.

Thanks.

grahamperrin commented 3 years ago

Some AppImages reproducably lead to a bad kernel crash and instant reboot

With the given image: not reproducible.

Can you provide steps to reproduce? Maybe in a separate issue (to not over-complicate this issue). Thanks.

probonopd commented 2 years ago

Why is the 0.7.0 build ~500 MB larger with FreeBSD 13?

probonopd commented 2 years ago

0G35 cannot boot on non-EFI systems:

CD Loader 1.2

Bulding the boot loader arguments Looking up /BOOT/LOADER... File not found Looking up /boot/loader... File not found Boot failed

The file seems to be there...

Here is the same system booted on a UEFI based machine:

What is going on?

grahamperrin commented 2 years ago

What is going on?

FreeBSD 13.0-RELEASE based experimental 0.7.0 build · Discussion #229 · helloSystem/hello

probonopd commented 2 years ago

Can you provide screenshots of what's required and what's different?

In VirtualBox, I get none of the FreeBSD fonts at all, but the BIOS ("MS-DOS") font.

On different real machines, I get various ("random") font sizes for the console text during boot.

Here someone seems to have the same issue (too large text compared to 12.x):

https://twitter.com/kaevans91/status/1452133650439548936/

probonopd commented 2 years ago

Relevant discussion on ISO sizes and compression: https://github.com/helloSystem/hello/discussions/229#discussioncomment-1529104

probonopd commented 2 years ago

https://forums.FreeBSD.org/threads/from-12-2-to-13.79837/post-506493

in loader.conf: screen.font="8x16" will reduce the font size and make it appear the same size as VT 1024x768 font size from FreeBSD 12.2.

So, in /boot/loader.conf:

# Make font size same as it was before FreeBSD 13
screen.font="8x16"

Check /boot/fonts to see which fonts are available.

One more thing fixed!

probonopd commented 2 years ago

network:/// stays empty

Why? How can this be debugged?

On FreeBSD 13 we get:

FreeBSD% ps ax | grep gvfs
2565  -  I     0:00,04 /usr/local/libexec/gvfsd
2677  -  S     0:00,08 /usr/local/libexec/gvfsd-trash --spawner :1.38 /org/gtk/gvfs/exec_spaw/0
2766  -  I     0:00,03 /usr/local/libexec/gvfs-mtp-volume-monitor (gvfs-mtp-volume-mon)
2768  -  I     0:00,03 /usr/local/libexec/gvfs-gphoto2-volume-monitor (gvfs-gphoto2-volume)
2769  -  S     0:00,06 /usr/local/libexec/gvfsd-computer --spawner :1.38 /org/gtk/gvfs/exec_spaw/1
3101  -  I     0:00,02 /usr/local/libexec/gvfsd-metadata
3107  -  I     0:00,04 /usr/local/libexec/gvfsd-network --spawner :1.38 /org/gtk/gvfs/exec_spaw/2
3110  -  I     0:00,02 /usr/local/libexec/gvfsd-dnssd --spawner :1.38 /org/gtk/gvfs/exec_spaw/4

gvfs is one of the remaining non-FreeBSD-native parts in the system that is complex, fragile, and under-documented. We should consider to replace it with something more robust. Our Zeroconf application is a start for browsing the network, but we would need to implement e.g., FUSE based mounting of SSH/SFTP shares. And possibly someone cares still abot Windows Network?

probonopd commented 2 years ago

Network works now:

Don't ask me why. But I am glad that it does.

probonopd commented 2 years ago

...and with that: No more showstoppers. If nothing new pops up, then helloSystem 0.7.0 will be based on FreeBSD 13-RELEASE.

Feel free to comment here if you think there are still showstoppers.

helloSystem / ISO

Issues with FreeBSD 13 based builds #198

Showstoppers?

Issues