PDF version of HISPID 6.0

[AaronWilton]

hispidterms.pdf New version with vocabularies included

[AaronWilton]

Vocabularies - many of the vocabularies have description = Preferred term = Identifier. I think we have 2 options 1) write proper descriptions for all the concepts; 2) omit the description when it is equal to identifier. (we could also do a mix of these)

Thoughts?

[AaronWilton]

Include acknowledgement of copied content from other standards.

[AaronWilton]

What else do we need to cover in any introductory material?

some starting ideas (only semi-ordered):

• background, history
  • HISCOM developing since 1995
  • previous versions
• scope and purpose
  • specimen related data
  • key changes, including expanded to cover: (? summary of changes)
  • images
  • permits/consents
• acknowledge contributors to date
• relationship of this document to
  • previous versions
  • other standards
• General guidelines and conventions - do we have many of these
  • use of | as delimiter
  • something about namespaces??
  • see also http://terms.tdwg.org/wiki/Audubon_Core

[acvaughan]

Don't think I have anything to add, but thanks for your work on this, Aaron.

[afuchs1]

Aaron, I really like having a PDF, thanks for starting....maybe an index. The text so far reads great.

[DNAdl8]

Following from the HISCOM meeting in Brisbane, my suggested changes to the PDF version of HISPID 6.0 include:

• Is the CHAH logo up-to-date?
• Include 'Contents' at the beginning
• Ensure the references for the HISPID versions are in full i.e. versions 1-3 - where were they published?
• References for HISPID versions either within the Intro, OR at the end of the document with other references
• Finalise content in 'Convention's section including 1. Summary of new terms (i.e. permitORconsent, 2. Summary of DwC Terms, ABCD, Audubon Core terms and even links where appropriate OR this could be an Appendix?
• Index If I come across anything else, I will provide any changes to the actual Terms and Vocabs in another comment

[acvaughan]

Forgive me, but where do I find the version with the intro? Above one only has a few notes.

[ryonen]

hispidterms.pdf

Hopefully that link worked - if not, I'll email it through.

[acvaughan]

Great, thanks (it worked).

[ryonen]

Ignore - just cross-referenced to other issues and see that this is #124.

For all the non-TDWG terms (e.g. lifeForm, associationType, topography...) the Identifier and Namespace links are broken. I get (e.g.) for http://hiscom.chah.org.au/hispid/terms/lifeForm:

"This site can’t be reached hiscom.chah.org.au’s server DNS address could not be found. Go to http://chah.org.au/ Search Google for hiscom chah org au hispid terms lifeForm ERR_NAME_NOT_RESOLVED"

Is this a case of the address having changed for the hispid terms and not being updated in this document? It's the same message for all the hiscom.chah... terms.

[ryonen]

associatedOccurrences (http://rs.tdwg.org/dwc/terms/associatedOccurrences) is included in Class: Organism on TDWG whereas we have it in Class: Occurrence in the pdf. The definition makes it sound as though it should be in Occurrences (?). In the details (http://tdwg.github.io/dwc/terms/history/index.htm#associatedOccurrences-2014-10-23) it seems as though its placement in Class: Occurrence was superseded by Class: Organism, along with notes recommending use of the vertical bar to separate taxon names. Error on TDWG? Put this under Class: Organism in our pdf?? If so, a heading is needed.

[ryonen]

^ same situation for previousIdentifications

[nielsklazenga]

That is issue #120. We decided at HISCOM that we weren't going to adopt the Organism class, mostly because putting associatedOccurrences in the Organism class really narrows down the use of the term to occurrences of the Organism, which goes against the definition of the term (or so we think) and precludes the way we use the term.

[ryonen]

Ah – missed that. Thanks Niels.

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That is issue #120https://github.com/hiscom/hispid/issues/120. We decided at HISCOM that we weren't going to adopt the Organism class, mostly because putting associatedOccurrences in the Organism class really narrows down the use of the term to occurrences of the Organism, which goes against the definition of the term (or so we think) and precludes the way we use the term.

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[wayne-cherry]

May have already been picked up, but heading on p.29 of pdf "HISPID Identification Qualifier Vocabulary" and the URI should refer to identification protocol.